Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis

neugey · 01-24-2020, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period.

Dissolving the Saints makes no sense. If the ownership and upper management were involved in something legitimately insidious, then yes perhaps NFL/NBA could force sales of the Saints and Pelicans, but I doubt there's a case to actually disband either franchise.

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2020, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period.

Originally Posted by neugey

Dissolving the Saints makes no sense. If the ownership and upper management were involved in something legitimately insidious, then yes perhaps NFL/NBA could force sales of the Saints and Pelicans, but I doubt there's a case to actually disband either franchise.

Where are y'all getting the crazy notion that the Saints management in any way condoned what any child molester did? They have had a long standing relationship with the local archdiocese that asked their advice on public relations, along with several other "civic leaders". The people asking for the advice are not the ones accused of any wrong-doing. The Saints said they suggested be open and transparent. From my understanding the church has been completely cooperative with the investigations. Y'all are buying into the ridiculous hype of the Associated Press trying to create a story.

Try educating yourself before jumping to all kinds of false conclusions. This is what I HATE about the so-called media today.

Cruize · 01-24-2020, 05:54 PM

Holy Crap Batman! Got a bad feeling on this one. No way to come out of it unscathed.

stickman · 01-24-2020, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Holy Crap Batman! Got a bad feeling on this one. No way to come out of it unscathed.

Unfortunately, this is true. Doesn't matter what advice the Saints gave, or who initiated the conversation, they are going to be seen as wrong in this situation. It's not going to end well.

jeanpierre · 01-24-2020, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Close. They never claim to know everything. Back in my day it was to sell newspapers and magazines. Today it is to get clicks. Sensationalize everything, whether there is any truth to the matter or not. In the end no one is going to remember that you were wrong. Journalism is a business first and foremost. The object is not to publish information ... it is to make money.

Perspective.

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2020, 06:19 PM

My God! Y'all are buying into this non-story?

jeanpierre · 01-24-2020, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

My God! Y'all are buying into this non-story?

As you said, let all the facts come out - full disclosure...

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2020, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Perspective.

Yes, perspective. I know how the media operates. Especially operations like the AP. The more **** they can stir the more money they make selling their crap. Skymike put it right when he said the AP is slightly above The Inquirer. Or maybe he is wrong. They are a step below.

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2020, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

As you said, let all the facts come out - full disclosure...

And that will come through the legal system, or do you feel that laws are no longer important when it comes to media demands?

If the Saints emails were subpoenaed as part of a case the Saints cannot release that information publicly until a court decides.

ChrisXVI · 01-24-2020, 06:25 PM

Attorneys for about two dozen men suing the church say in court filings that the 276 documents they obtained through discovery show that the NFL team, whose owner is devoutly Catholic, aided the Archdiocese of New Orleans in its “pattern and practice of concealing its crimes.”

This is pretty troubling.

01-24-2020, 04:00 PM	#21
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Originally Posted by The Dude If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period. Dissolving the Saints makes no sense. If the ownership and upper management were involved in something legitimately insidious, then yes perhaps NFL/NBA could force sales of the Saints and Pelicans, but I doubt there's a case to actually disband either franchise.

01-24-2020, 05:52 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Originally Posted by The Dude If the Saints did so much as hint they would help these child molesters the team should be dissolved period. Originally Posted by neugey Dissolving the Saints makes no sense. If the ownership and upper management were involved in something legitimately insidious, then yes perhaps NFL/NBA could force sales of the Saints and Pelicans, but I doubt there's a case to actually disband either franchise. Where are y'all getting the crazy notion that the Saints management in any way condoned what any child molester did? They have had a long standing relationship with the local archdiocese that asked their advice on public relations, along with several other "civic leaders". The people asking for the advice are not the ones accused of any wrong-doing. The Saints said they suggested be open and transparent. From my understanding the church has been completely cooperative with the investigations. Y'all are buying into the ridiculous hype of the Associated Press trying to create a story. Try educating yourself before jumping to all kinds of false conclusions. This is what I HATE about the so-called media today. OldMaid and aintasinner like this.
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01-24-2020, 05:54 PM	#23
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Holy Crap Batman! Got a bad feeling on this one. No way to come out of it unscathed.
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01-24-2020, 06:00 PM	#24
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,687	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Originally Posted by Cruize Holy Crap Batman! Got a bad feeling on this one. No way to come out of it unscathed. Unfortunately, this is true. Doesn't matter what advice the Saints gave, or who initiated the conversation, they are going to be seen as wrong in this situation. It's not going to end well. OldMaid likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Close. They never claim to know everything. Back in my day it was to sell newspapers and magazines. Today it is to get clicks. Sensationalize everything, whether there is any truth to the matter or not. In the end no one is going to remember that you were wrong. Journalism is a business first and foremost. The object is not to publish information ... it is to make money. Perspective.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis My God! Y'all are buying into this non-story?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Originally Posted by jeanpierre Perspective. Yes, perspective. I know how the media operates. Especially operations like the AP. The more **** they can stir the more money they make selling their crap. Skymike put it right when he said the AP is slightly above The Inquirer. Or maybe he is wrong. They are a step below. jeanpierre likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Originally Posted by jeanpierre *As you said, let all* the facts come out - full disclosure...** And that will come through the legal system, or do you feel that laws are no longer important when it comes to media demands? If the Saints emails were subpoenaed as part of a case the Saints cannot release that information publicly until a court decides.

01-24-2020, 06:25 PM	#30
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis Attorneys for about two dozen men suing the church say in court filings that the 276 documents they obtained through discovery show that the NFL team, whose owner is devoutly Catholic, aided the Archdiocese of New Orleans in its “pattern and practice of concealing its crimes.” This is pretty troubling. jeanpierre likes this.

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