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K Major 03-13-2020 09:05 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 881603)
Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24...

Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan is measurables, playing style, et cetera...
Last thing on the DE situation ...

Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game.

Cam J needs help coming off the edge.

Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation.

RefsRobbedUs 03-13-2020 10:20 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881607)
Last thing on the DE situation ...

Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game.

Cam J needs help coming off the edge.

Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation.
i would like robert quinn i knew we were interested before he went to dallas

jeanpierre 03-14-2020 03:10 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 881609)
i would like robert quinn i knew we were interested before he went to dallas
To me, there are two general types of defensive linemen, big and strong who controlling the line of scrimmage versus quick and fast, disrupters who penetrate and attack the ball carriers before the play can set up...

The former group of big, strong tend to have longer careers than the latter speed guys mainly due to age plus wear & tear; my concern with Quinn is that he'll be 30 this season...

Epenesa is very much like the big and strong type of lineman that Cam Jordan is and that's why I'm seeing in rankings and mocks there's a chance he could fall to us which presents an intriguing situation...

jeanpierre 03-14-2020 03:25 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881607)
Last thing on the DE situation ...

Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game.

Cam J needs help coming off the edge.

Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation.
Under 30yo Defensive Ends:

Dante Fowler and Bud Dupree have been disappointing until 2019 when each had 11.5 sacks last year; so did they figure things out or contract year performers? Both likely are unaffordable, too big a risk...

Carl Nassib has had at least 6.0 sacks in his two seasons with Tampa Bay and is comparable in build to Davenport, and we currently have this performer in Hendrickson...

Emmanuel Ogbah had 5.0 sacks in ten games for the Chiefs, but has been unable to be available, so is signing a guy who likely won't be around in the playoffs really productive?

Then there's the curious case of 49ers FA Ronald Blair who's had some success in limited reps on a talented 49ers defensive line. Is the success due to surrounding talent (Bama effect) or is there value?

jeanpierre 03-14-2020 02:03 PM
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jeanpierre 03-15-2020 04:26 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency Eve (maybe :rolleyes:)

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (4) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (3) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 80 - Austin Carr (RFA - 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (RFA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

NCB (1) 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 62; Offense: 31; Defense: 28; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 03-16-2020 04:31 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency Early Tampering

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (4) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (3) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 80 - Austin Carr (RFA - 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (RFA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (3) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

NCB (1) 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 63; Offense: 31; Defense: 29; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

K Major 03-17-2020 07:41 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I think we are good on the D line (interior) but outside of Cam J & Davenport, we need to add another rotational DE who hates QB's :p.

K Major 03-17-2020 07:44 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

DD and Robertson are the only guys we can count on (health) at LB on Sundays.

If Patrick Queen (LSU - LB) slides down the draft board, would you?

jeanpierre 03-17-2020 08:34 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 881859)
RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

DD and Robertson are the only guys we can count on (health) at LB on Sundays.

If Patrick Queen (LSU - LB) slides down the draft board, would you?
Just mentioned this in FA thread re: Re-Working Kiko's Contract, we had three (3) LBers on the field for less than a 1/3 of our defensive snaps; now we do rotate them to keep 'em fresh, but the game has changed...

Love Queen and I like Murray, but the premium positions in this league right now is QBs, CBs, WRX, DEs, and I believe you're right that we need that third DE or CB2 a helluva lot more than a LBer...

I'd rather not risk a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick on a LBer (Simmons would be the exception), but have plenty of late Day 2 and Day 3 picks to try to find those quick former SS converted to LBer types...

K Major 03-19-2020 08:20 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020)

Just in case some may have missed it ...

Saints DID NOT extend tenders to multiple players.

Other notable names include Austin "Piano man" Carr, Justin Hardee & Cameron Tom.

IMO Kirkwood and Carr are wasted roster spots. It's time to change it up. These guys can't help Drew. Shake up the roster.

jeanpierre 03-19-2020 10:16 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency[/I]

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (RFA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (3) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 62; Offense: 29; Defense: 30; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

saintsfan1976 03-19-2020 11:14 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
CB
WR
LG
LB

Bring 'em in Loomis.

jeanpierre 03-19-2020 01:14 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 882271)
CB
WR
LG
LB

Bring 'em in Loomis.
Looking at the current roster outlook, can only see us bringing in a CB for depth, whether FA or NFL Draft, or do we not feel good about Jenkins at CB2?

The only remaining Free Agent Guard I'd bring in is Stefen Wisniewski, who's graded in the Top 20 in his most previous stops...

We do need to sign a veteran Wide Receiver Flanker to stretch the field - badly...

With the money currently allocated at LBer, I'd be fine if we moved back into Round 2, picked up an add'l Round 2 pick, and took a 3-down LBer with coverage skills Rounds 3 or 4...

ChrisXVI 03-19-2020 08:04 PM
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saintsfan1976 03-19-2020 08:56 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 882291)
Looking at the current roster outlook, can only see us bringing in a CB for depth, whether FA or NFL Draft, or do we not feel good about Jenkins at CB2?

The only remaining Free Agent Guard I'd bring in is Stefen Wisniewski, who's graded in the Top 20 in his most previous stops...

We do need to sign a veteran Wide Receiver Flanker to stretch the field - badly...

With the money currently allocated at LBer, I'd be fine if we moved back into Round 2, picked up an add'l Round 2 pick, and took a 3-down LBer with coverage skills Rounds 3 or 4...
CB - I'm assuming Jack Rabbit is being restructured. If so he's a serviceable #2 who admittedly gets flagged too much...but he'll be fine. If so we're good to default to the draft for a backup. My pick: Cameron Dantzler

WR - considering Brees's age, I'd prefer a dynamic intermediate route runner like Sanders. But the value play could be Perriman. Of course, the draft is loaded with prospects... My pick: Denzel Mimz

OG - free agency is all but washed up. A few intriguing prospects in the draft and I'd love nothing more than another early round big body

LB - It's all about sideline to sideline and savvy play. My pick: Patrick Queen.

jeanpierre 03-20-2020 02:41 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency, Day 3

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (2) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (4) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (4) 12 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (3) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

RLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis, 53 - Chase Hansen, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (3) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 64; Offense: 31; Defense: 30; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 03-20-2020 11:20 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 882339)
CB - I'm assuming Jack Rabbit is being restructured. If so he's a serviceable #2 who admittedly gets flagged too much...but he'll be fine. If so we're good to default to the draft for a backup. My pick: Cameron Dantzler

WR - considering Brees's age, I'd prefer a dynamic intermediate route runner like Sanders. But the value play could be Perriman. Of course, the draft is loaded with prospects... My pick: Denzel Mimz

OG - free agency is all but washed up. A few intriguing prospects in the draft and I'd love nothing more than another early round big body

LB - It's all about sideline to sideline and savvy play. My pick: Patrick Queen.
Cam Dantzler, Yes

Denzel Mimz, Yes (Reagor would be Better)

Patrick Queen, 3rd Round, meh, wouldn't reach any more for a Linebacker than R4 where there's some guys in the Mountain West that should be there, take year to develop...

Immediate Needs that stand out now are:
  1. CB; we've got guys that can play the slot, but need more boundary guys; wouldn't be opposed to bringing PJ Williams' versatility back...

  2. WR; we got the short term solution, but we still need a burner to tutelage behind Sanders at the WRF; we have no one for the slot...

  3. DE; Expiring contract for Hendrickson, and Davenport hasn't been able to stay healthy; Contenders always have three pass rushers and we've got a 1.5, .75, and an unavailable...

  4. RB; we're awfully thin, and could use a third down Pierre Thomas type that we should find late in the draft, Brees offered a tell that Payton likes Clyde Edwards......

  5. LB; Anzalone is in his last year and we've already committed a lot of money without Lattimore and Ramczyk being signed, not to mention Kamara; we need young, available, fast, and cheap...

  6. TE; Cook disappears in games way too much for my taste, plus he'll be 33yo and has a lot of miles and two concussions since getting his Saints' halo; Payton needs to find that Gronk type to taunt Brady...

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 11:39 AM
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jeanpierre 03-21-2020 11:40 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
PewterReport Editor:

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 11:41 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency, Starters Set/Depth Signings

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (2) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (3) 88 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (3) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

RLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis, 53 - Chase Hansen, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

MLB (3) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 64; Offense: 31; Defense: 30; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 12:21 PM
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jeanpierre 03-22-2020 07:39 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
2020 New Orleans Saints Updated Needs:

  1. WRZ

  2. CB2

  3. RDE

  4. LB

  5. TE

jeanpierre 03-22-2020 11:43 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency, Starters Set/Depth Signings

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

RLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 65; Offense: 31; Defense: 31; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 03-22-2020 09:55 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Rugby Saint II 03-23-2020 02:45 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 882706)
2020 New Orleans Saints Updated Needs:

  1. WRZ
    I'm not so sure that I'd put WRZ that high up. We finally have some young guys who either played some or were learning the system on the practice squad that some members are high on.

  2. CB2

    This is where I feel like we need better depth. Besides Jenkins these young DB's have given up big plays in big games. We especially need boundary corners I believe.

  3. RDE

    I can't argue there.

  4. LB
    Now this is a top priority to me! Davis is the man and he can play all three LB'er spots....just not at the same time. Anzalone is talented but his availability is always questionable. Alonzo was good but he's another player coming back from injury. We need speed and smarts than is non the roster.



jeanpierre 03-23-2020 04:29 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 12:14 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency, Starters Set/Depth Signings

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

RLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 66; Offense: 31; Defense: 32; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

K Major 03-24-2020 07:24 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

Who steps up here?

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 08:20 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 882952)
RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards

Who steps up here?
That's exactly why I'm thinking we may not be done using a first round pick on DE...

Maybe it's a case where they have had more information on the medicals, i.e. Peat, and know that they have already...

But the inability for Davenport, using Coach P speak, to be available is really the biggest factor in decisions...

That's why I really was convinced they were gonna make every effort to re-sign Onyemata as they did...

Part of a professional football player's SPARQ besides speed, quickness, strength, burst, size has got to be physical resilience...

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 11:21 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency, Starters Set/Depth Signings

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 21 - Patrick Robinson


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 67; Offense: 31; Defense: 33; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 11:27 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
KM called it last season...

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 11:36 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 03-25-2020 07:16 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

K Major 03-26-2020 07:08 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)

Finally we have some "heat" on 3 Smith. If the light comes on in 2020 ... lagniappe.

jeanpierre 03-27-2020 02:56 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 03-30-2020 09:28 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

K Major 03-30-2020 10:22 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
The best quote from JP's article on Emmanuel S ...

"It's about the ability to get open. That's what matters in this league. At the end of the day, when it's third-and-7 and you need to get open on a crosser or shallow or option route, you want the guy that has the traits to create separation".

jeanpierre 03-31-2020 09:28 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

K Major 03-31-2020 10:24 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

Let's see what the future holds for Saquan.

There should be no reason Marcus won't be a ball hawk with Malcolm in his back pocket for 2020. The younger guys will learn from the proven vet.


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