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jeanpierre 05-04-2020 12:11 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency Tweaking

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 64 - Will Clapp, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

AsylumGuido 05-04-2020 07:27 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 888069)
Oh and also, I think it’s a 55-man roster now.
"The game-day active roster will increase from 46 to 48 players (although one of the extra players must be an offensive lineman, which will give teams more flexibility to have three extra linemen). Practice squads will expand from 10 players to 12 in 2020 and 2021 and to 14 starting in 2022. Practice-squad salaries also are going up -- the minimum salary is $8,000 per week in the current CBA, and it will rise to $11,500 by 2022 -- and those players will be eligible for 401(k) and tuition assistance benefits.

Two practice-squad players per week may be elevated to the team's roster, meaning game-week roster sizes could effectively increase from 53 to 55. And a player elevated from the practice squad to the 55-man roster could be sent back to the practice squad two times without having to clear waivers."

ChrisXVI 05-04-2020 07:30 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 888091)
"The game-day active roster will increase from 46 to 48 players (although one of the extra players must be an offensive lineman, which will give teams more flexibility to have three extra linemen). Practice squads will expand from 10 players to 12 in 2020 and 2021 and to 14 starting in 2022. Practice-squad salaries also are going up -- the minimum salary is $8,000 per week in the current CBA, and it will rise to $11,500 by 2022 -- and those players will be eligible for 401(k) and tuition assistance benefits.

Two practice-squad players per week may be elevated to the team's roster, meaning game-week roster sizes could effectively increase from 53 to 55. And a player elevated from the practice squad to the 55-man roster could be sent back to the practice squad two times without having to clear waivers."
Interesting... so those extra two spots have to be practice squad players that can be called up.

AsylumGuido 05-04-2020 08:15 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 888092)
Interesting... so those extra two spots have to be practice squad players that can be called up.
Apparently. Given you only have two "free" call ups per individual they may be used sparingly. Unless you have injury concerns the normal game week roster may continue to be 53 with fewer inactives on game day.

jeanpierre 05-04-2020 09:15 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Other side of that is if your team is developing a player that flashes in his call-up opportunity, then you've got to move to protect him or a lesser team raids your practice squad...

jeanpierre 05-04-2020 09:39 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I'd sure like to bring in an additional RB for this roster; maybe even bring back Jonathan Williams if he's still available; the veteran RB market sure dried up quick...

Wonder if we could even move Warford for a RB for depth and then sign a Free Agent Guard to look at in camp?

jeanpierre 05-04-2020 08:14 PM
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jeanpierre 05-05-2020 05:51 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
With Frank Gore signing with the Jets, can't help but wonder if we don't need to bring in another running back, who's more of a running back than a kicking game specialist...

saintsfan1976 05-05-2020 06:08 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888207)
With Frank Gore signing with the Jets, can't help but wonder if we don't need to bring in another running back, who's more of a running back than a kicking game specialist...
Guaranteed to find a value before the season starts. I can't say it enough - San Fran made the Superbowl with three journeymen RBs.

jeanpierre 05-05-2020 06:38 PM
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jeanpierre 05-05-2020 06:39 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Way-Too-Early 53-man Projection

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020)[/COLOR]

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith

WR-S (2)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 64 - Will Clapp

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


*Projected 53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 25; Defense: 25; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 05-05-2020 07:13 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 888211)
Guaranteed to find a value before the season starts. I can't say it enough - San Fran made the Superbowl with three journeymen RBs.
Yeah, three RBs; what do you think Sean Payton is gonna do, press Taysom in at RB?

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saintsfan1976 05-06-2020 06:24 AM
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If the Jets cut Avery Williamson, I hope we pursue him. 120 tackles in 2018. ACL in preseason last year kept him from playing all year. He'd be an upgrade over Anzalone and Kiko.

jeanpierre 05-06-2020 07:10 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
We've got a lot of money already tied up at LBer with Demario Davis, just spent two third round picks at LBer with Zach Baun, & we play nickel for nearly 2/3 snaps...

Plus you've still got Alex Anzalone, who played as well as anyone when healthy (maybe that's finally fixed); Kiko is as good as it comes until recent injuries; and we've got more...

I'd be patient at LBer for now; Defensive End and Running Back is what concerns me at the moment...

saintsfan1976 05-06-2020 08:42 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888232)
We've got a lot of money already tied up at LBer with Demario Davis, just spent two third round picks at LBer with Zach Baun, & we play nickel for nearly 2/3 snaps...

Plus you've still got Alex Anzalone, who played as well as anyone when healthy (maybe that's finally fixed); Kiko is as good as it comes until recent injuries; and we've got more...

I'd be patient at LBer for now; Defensive End and Running Back is what concerns me at the moment...
JP you have one of the shortest tempers when it comes to injuries... You can't tell me you're completely confident in our LBs either coming back at full strength OR playing a full season.

K Major 05-06-2020 08:53 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Alex Olgetree, Clay Matthews, Golden ... seasoned vets who can get to the QB are still out there.

I don't trust Anzalone for 16 games, Kiko (won't be a full go until late fall) & Kaden are coming off serious knee tears. Baun should be a much needed addition but he's still a rookie.

halloween 65 05-06-2020 06:20 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 888237)
Alex Olgetree, Clay Matthews, Golden ... seasoned vets who can get to the QB are still out there.

I don't trust Anzalone for 16 games, Kiko (won't be a full go until late fall) & Kaden are coming off serious knee tears. Baun should be a much needed addition but he's still a rookie.
Only thing that worries me about Baun, I think he fits a 3-4D better than in a 4-3. I hope he proves me wrong but I thought as soon as he was drafted him they were trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. We'll see. I also would like some insurance with the lb. core.

RefsRobbedUs 05-06-2020 06:48 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888232)
We've got a lot of money already tied up at LBer with Demario Davis, just spent two third round picks at LBer with Zach Baun, & we play nickel for nearly 2/3 snaps...

Plus you've still got Alex Anzalone, who played as well as anyone when healthy (maybe that's finally fixed); Kiko is as good as it comes until recent injuries; and we've got more...

I'd be patient at LBer for now; Defensive End and Running Back is what concerns me at the moment...
You’re more concerned with running back than corner?

rezburna 05-06-2020 08:24 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 888260)
Only thing that worries me about Baun, I think he fits a 3-4D better than in a 4-3. I hope he proves me wrong but I thought as soon as he was drafted him they were trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. We'll see. I also would like some insurance with the lb. core.
I agree.

ChrisXVI 05-06-2020 08:49 PM
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I think the vision for Baun is to take over at Mike LB. Joe Schobert was an edge rusher at Wisconsin too and made the transition to Mike. Those guys are very well coached and have the high football IQ’s to make that change.

jeanpierre 05-06-2020 11:23 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Who will be the 90th?

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 64 - Will Clapp, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 05-06-2020 11:25 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 888235)
JP you have one of the shortest tempers when it comes to injuries... You can't tell me you're completely confident in our LBs either coming back at full strength OR playing a full season.
Read my entire post, Brother '76! Today's game, we just don't see the volume of 3 LBer sets snaps like we did twenty years ago; we're in nickel, heavy nickel, or dime in over 2/3rd's of 'em...

And I'll expand on another point that was on my mind, but I failed to convey - Ireland is rightfully spreading the talent around on the field as much as possible...

And To me, the priorities on defense that will have the biggest impact need to be defensive line, defensive backs, then linebackers...

Now, we've got a talented roster, but grading elite at every single position is not realistic in today's free agent system...

So I'm satisfied we've got at least one elite linebacker, best in the league last year, and that the others can step up, complement, build around Demario's game...

I'm more concerned about opponents easily rolling protection up on Cam Jordan, double-teaming Onyemata and eliminating our base Pass Rush so easily...

And if you want to critique my temper on injuries, that's all good, but you're oversimplifying my frustration, so let's be clear what really frustrates me...

It's when we roll two-three-draft picks, or a great deal of cap money into a player that's perennially not available for the tournament or strategic conference games...

We've got a third round pick invested in Alex Anzalone, one; some of the other players are either a truckload of cap space or draft capital and we've nothing left...

That would more accurately encapsulate my frustration, temper if you want with our personnel moves...

As much as I like Cam, I like the Pats' approach of having a bunch of second, third day draft picks, and rotating young, hungry defensive lineman every game like Hockey switches lines...

And getting back to spreading the talent around, would you rather WR3, or a RDE2, or another boundary CB, or a scat-RB, or another LBer?

Rugby Saint II 05-07-2020 01:43 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888279)
Read my entire post, Brother '76! Today's game, we just don't see the volume of 3 LBer sets snaps like we did twenty years ago; we're in nickel, heavy nickel, or dime in over 2/3rd's of 'em...

And I'll expand on another point that was on my mind, but I failed to convey - Ireland is rightfully spreading the talent around on the field as much as possible...

And To me, the priorities on defense that will have the biggest impact need to be defensive line, defensive backs, then linebackers...

Now, we've got a talented roster, but grading elite at every single position is not realistic in today's free agent system...

So I'm satisfied we've got at least one elite linebacker, best in the league last year, and that the others can step up, complement, build around Demario's game...

I'm more concerned about opponents easily rolling protection up on Cam Jordan, double-teaming Onyemata and eliminating our base Pass Rush so easily...

And if you want to critique my temper on injuries, that's all good, but you're oversimplifying my frustration, so let's be clear what really frustrates me...

It's when we roll two-three-draft picks, or a great deal of cap money into a player that's perennially not available for the tournament or strategic conference games...

We've got a third round pick invested in Alex Anzalone, one; some of the other players are either a truckload of cap space or draft capital and we've nothing left...

That would more accurately encapsulate my frustration, temper if you want with our personnel moves...

As much as I like Cam, I like the Pats' approach of having a bunch of second, third day draft picks, and rotating young, hungry defensive lineman every game like Hockey switches lines...



And getting back to spreading the talent around, would you rather WR3, or a RDE2, or another boundary CB, or a scat-RB, or another LBer?


Give me a boundary cornerback please.:biggun:

jeanpierre 05-08-2020 04:47 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Larry Warford, Bye

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

K Major 05-08-2020 05:05 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24),

I hope Ruiz is the truth in 2020 wherever he lines up this season ... like Ramz was a a rookie.

jeanpierre 05-09-2020 10:09 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 888446)
C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24),

I hope Ruiz is the truth in 2020 wherever he lines up this season ... like Ramz was a a rookie.
Ruiz will be Center, one of the reasons he kept/was assigned his jersey number (only centers can wear nos. in the 50s') per NFL RuleBook...

Ruiz is also very adapt at getting low, underneath interior defenders, and moving 'em out then letting Guard break off next level to the linebackers...

McCoy has better movement in space, that's why he'll be at Right Guard...

AsylumGuido 05-10-2020 07:20 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888526)
Ruiz will be Center, one of the reasons he kept/was assigned his jersey number (only centers can wear nos. in the 50s') per NFL RuleBook...

Ruiz is also very adapt at getting low, underneath interior defenders, and moving 'em out then letting Guard break off next level to the linebackers...

McCoy has better movement in space, that's why he'll be at Right Guard...
The way I heard it interpreted was that a center had to wear a number in the 50's, while the only offensive players that can wear the numbers are offensive linemen. A guard wearing a number in the 50's can also line up at center at anytime. A guard with a number in the 60's cannot unless he reports in to the official that he is playing center ... much like an OT reporting in as an eligible receiver because of wearing a non-receiver number.

vpheughan 05-10-2020 08:17 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
According to the NFL Rule Book, only centers are allowed numbers 50–59, though occasionally other offensive linemen are given numbers in this range.
The numbers used relate to the player's primary position when they are first assigned a number. If they later change positions, they can keep their prior number, unless it conflicts with the eligible receiver rule.

50 – Ben Hamilton, Broncos Right Guard
59 - Nick Cole, Eagles Right Guard
63 - Jeff Saturday Colts Center

jeanpierre 05-10-2020 02:38 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Rule 5. Players, Substitutes, Equipment, General Rules
SECTION 1 - PLAYERS
ARTICLE 1. NUMBER OF PLAYERS

The game is played by two teams of 11 players each.

If Team A has more than 11 players in its formation for more than three seconds, or if Team B has more than 11 players in its formation and the snap is imminent, it is a foul. Once the ball is made ready for play, if either team has more than 11 players in its formation prior to a free kick, it is also a foul. In these instances, game officials shall blow their whistles immediately and not allow the snap or kick to occur.

Penalty: For more than 11 players in the formation prior to the snap or free kick: Loss of five yards from the succeeding spot.

If a team has more than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone when a snap, free kick, or fair-catch kick is made, the ball is in play, and it is a foul.

Penalty: For more than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone while the ball is in play: Loss of five yards from the previous spot.

Note: It is not a foul if a team has fewer than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone when a snap, free kick, or fair- catch kick is made.
ARTICLE 2. PLAYERS NUMBERED BY POSITION

All players must wear numerals on their jerseys in accordance with Rule 5, Section 4, Article 3, Item 3. Such numerals must be by playing position, as follows:

quarterbacks, punters, and placekickers: 1–19;
running backs and defensive backs: 20–49;
centers: 50–79;
offensive guards and tackles: 60–79;
wide receivers: 10–19 and 80–89;
tight ends and H-backs: 40–49 and 80–89;
defensive linemen: 50–79 and 90–99;
linebackers: 40–59 and 90–99.

If a player changes his position during his playing career in the NFL, and such change moves him from a position as an ineligible pass receiver to that of an eligible pass receiver, or from a position as an eligible pass receiver to that of an ineligible pass receiver, he must be issued an appropriate new jersey numeral. A change in jersey numeral is not required if the change is from an ineligible position to another ineligible position, or from an eligible position to another eligible position, provided that the player has participated at least one season at his position prior to the change.

Any request to wear a numeral for a special position not specified above (e.g., H-back) must be made to the Commissioner. During the preseason period when playing rosters are larger, the League will allow duplication and other temporary deviations from the numbering scheme specified above, but the rule must be adhered to for all players during the regular season and postseason. Clubs must make numerals available to adhere to the rule, even if it requires returning to circulation a numeral that has been retired or withheld for other reasons. See 5-3-1 for reporting a change of position.

2019 NFL Rule Book

jeanpierre 05-10-2020 02:45 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Use to be Centers were in the 50s number range with linebackers...

Guards were in the 60s range, Offensive/Defensive Tackles in the 70s range...

Offensive/Defensive Ends in the 80s (Tight Ends and Wide Ends)...

Nose Tackles in the 90s, Cornerbacks in the 20s, Safeties in the 40s...

Quarterbacks wore 1-19, Running (Tail, Half, Slot, Full) backs in the 30s...

jeanpierre 05-10-2020 02:45 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Still, one open slot

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

K Major 05-10-2020 02:53 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

Can Southlake (Humphrey) step up his game in 2020? How about Callaway? Or sleeper Juwan Johnson?

I'll take anyone of these guys over Austin one reception Carr.

jeanpierre 05-10-2020 08:21 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 888581)
WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

Can Southlake (Humphrey) step up his game in 2020? How about Callaway? Or sleeper Juwan Johnson?

I'll take anyone of these guys over Austin one reception Carr.
The last two years, we've moved another X-receiver onto the field and moved @CantGuardMike into the slot just to get production out of that area...

Not replacing Snead before letting Snead geaux, not so good...

jeanpierre 05-12-2020 08:20 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Thinking why Payton would bring back Austin Carr despite a total lack of production to date...

Shortened OffSeason, need as many WRs that know the system in camp to assist with the tutelage of the younger WRs is where my thoughts go on this...

Payton has been particularly OCD when it comes to the crispness and flow of practices and having more veterans familiar with the offensive vernacular, drills, routine eases that concern...

K Major 05-12-2020 08:25 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 888705)
Thinking why Payton would bring back Austin Carr despite a total lack of production to date...

Shortened OffSeason, need as many WRs that know the system in camp to assist with the tutelage of the younger WRs is where my thoughts go on this...
This is the only thing that makes sense to me as well JP.

Or he views the 4th/5th WR position as a downfield blocker/ghost route running receiver.

jeanpierre 05-12-2020 08:46 AM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Speaking of Austin Carr, this just popped up...

jeanpierre 05-12-2020 06:21 PM
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jeanpierre 05-13-2020 08:15 PM
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jeanpierre 05-13-2020 08:15 PM
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The Dude 05-13-2020 10:05 PM
Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Anyone else look at this depth chart and see a couple “who the hell is this Effin guy?” ala Major League?


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