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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Draft Prep

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 68; Offense: 31; Defense: 34; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

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I actually like the PJ re sign.

At worst he's good depth, knows the system and can fill in at safety (see Underhill tweet) if needed. Always admired his tackling ability too.

Championship.

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A bit of old news but saw this on Walterfootball...

"Saints re-sign G/OT Andrus Peat (5 years, $57.5 million; $33 million guaranteed): D Grade
Wow, I can't believe this contract. This is a horrible signing, but let me begin with the two positives. First, continuity is important for the offensive line, so retaining Andrus Peat allows continuity to happen. Second, Peat is still just 26, so he has time to improve his game.

All of that is fine, but this move deserves to be graded harshly. Peat is the worst starter on the Saints' offensive line. He's versatile because he can play both guard and tackle, but he's been a major liability over the past couple of seasons. To give him this much money is completely asinine. The Saints could find a similarly skilled lineman for a contract around two years for $5 million, just as the Buccaneers just did with Joe Haeg."

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I've never been a fan of PFF analytics, however it's simply hard to ignore the ratings on what they graded Peat at in the games he played.

His overall number was 49.7. For rating comparison, his O line team mates:

Ryan Ramz - 91.0 (STUD)
Terron A - 80 (he's always hurt but still performs at a high level)
Warford - 73.1 acceptable for a vet
McCoy - 76.2 impressive given the position and he was a rookie.

When I utilize these numbers, I'd say it's important to use perspective.Kind of a head scratcher they gave that much coin to a under whelming, under performing former 1st round draft pick. We all hope that he will improve, but I'm not nearly as optimistic as others.

My hope is that we target another O lineman in the mid rounds of the 2020 draft to eventually replace Andrus Peat in a year or two.

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It's truly mind-blowing on the amount of money we paid him. If we wanted to bring him back it should have been for 20% of that contract. This might be worse than the Byrd and Browner deals, time will tell and I hope that isn't the case.

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QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

Who will become QB #3 on the Saints roster ?

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Draft Prep

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 68; Offense: 31; Defense: 34; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

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I've never watched Love play but the reviews are very mixed. From what I read he doesn't look like a Sean Payton QB. But what do I know?

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I like Jalen Hurts more than any of these guys.

Smart, makes good decisions, coachable and wants to prove naysayers wrong.

Coach him up.

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NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)

To recap we now have a EXTREMELY TALENTED slot corner (although I'd like to see him at SS/FS) in Gardner-Johnson, an All Pro caliber SS in Jenkins and a ball hawking FS in Marcus Williams.

Not to mention two very good corners in Lattimore and Janoris.

On paper, the back end looks very good.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – More Depth

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 69; Offense: 32; Defense: 34; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

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PFF needs to update the images with current uniforms for these players...

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But more importantly, we now have 2 playmakers @ WR who hardly drop footballs thrown in their zip code.

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You can never have enough good CBs on your roster. I'm ok with drafting one.

What I'd really like to see early is help for the pass rush. That could be a LB or a DE.

We MUST affect the passer better this season.

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+1.

Kurt Cousins had too much time in the w/c game. Gotta make these QB's uncomfortable/disrupt timing on some of those throws. I know we have Davenport/Trey in the rotation, however I still continue to beat the drum for a Free Agent DE.

Clay Matthews, Everson Griffin & Golden are still out there in Free Agency land. All had 8 or more sacks in 2019 but more importantly they are disruptors.

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Surely, Mickey will fill one more hole in free agency before the draft. At least I hope that we don't go into the draft needing a LB'er, DE, back up boundary CB, and a back up O-lineman. We can't try to fill all these in the draft and still plan on having better depth come time for the playoffs.

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Seeing stuff online about Kamara and trades,possible hold outs etc.
Anything in this locally or just internet gossip?

I would not be against it myself, as good as he is you just don't pay RB the sort of money he will want, especially not when you have a franchise CB and RT to pay aswell. The bad side of drafting so well is you will lose players, but RBs are far more easy to replace than other positions. Always preffered having 3 very good system fit RBs than 1 star myself anyway. Keep them fresh, and one injury doesnt screw the team

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If Kamara is threatening a holdout at training camp then I'd have to consider trading him for good value. The virus has left NFL teams with so many questions that I don't think this is the time to hold out. There are lots of decisions to be made in this uncharted territory this season and Payton and Loomis may not have the time for a hold out.

Although, Kamara is a huge part of our offense and he produces. With the proper usage he might stay healthy and be utilized in his joker role while actually splitting time in the back field. I can see where we could trade him but I don't believe that he will.

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Trade Kamara? Now? The Saints are a legitimate SB contender with a 1st ballot HOF QB who is nearing the end of career. The ultimate prize is within reach. If the Saints front office don't intend to pay him what he will expect to receive in his next contract, then retain his services until his contract is expires, then let him go.

What is more valuable here. A unknown @ pick #54 in the upcoming draft or 1 year of AK and a future 3rd rd pick?

AK is Payton's toy. I could be wrong but I just don't see a trade happening with Kamara.

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Payton loves Kamara’s football IQ. I just don’t see a trade happening either. There isn’t going to be a training camp to hold-out of anyway.

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Yup. Pretty much the last thing I could see happening. Given we only have Brees for the near future our best chance is winning now. Why trade an important asset which can contribute to our winning the next couple of Lombardi's for future consideration to be used with a team without their leader (Brees) a couple of years down the road?

It makes no sense whatsoever.

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WOW, MAKE ME GLAD ALL MY TRADE SUGGESTIONS ARE SIRIUS!!! :rofl: :rofl:

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:confused:

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I totally agree Chris. If we do trade him then we have to teach the system to another running back during a shortened off season. Kamara knows the system and excels in it. I just wish Payton would not try to make him into a bell cow.....that's why he was hurt all last year. He is not a feature back but Payton treats him like one.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Special Teams Veterans

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel, 27o - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020)

FB (1) 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020), 88 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 18 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 97 - Mario Edwards

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020), 53 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, P. J. Williams (FA 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel


90-man Roster Count - Total: 70; Offense: 33; Defense: 34; Kicking: 3

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

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Damn! Those numbers were very hard to follow in my inebriated state.

Did anyone ever see the movie with Russell Crowe called A Beautiful Mind? That wasn't about me....:doh:

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Saints need another pass rusher opposite Cam J.

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