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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints vs San Francisco 49ers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020) RG (1) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 85 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240/PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020) WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tommylee Lewis (PS 2020) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 95 - Will Clarke (PS 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson, 69 - Anthony Zettel (PS 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen *DTR, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020) MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Kwon Alexander, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020), SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 55 - Kaden Elliss, 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore *LEFT GAME/RETURNED, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 25 - Ken Crawley, 30 - Grant Haley (PS 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 26; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3 Reserve/Injured 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020) 77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020) 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020) 16 - Bennie Fowler (FA 2020) 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) 98 - Sheldon Rankins Reserve/Non-Football Injury 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020) Reserve/Opt-Out 85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020) 86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020) ...
I expected Ty to be lethal in this offense. So far, not much. |
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Now, it took a few games, but Brees got back to distributing the ball again (10 different receivers last night, team total 11 with Winston to Washington), that's winning football... |
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RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport
Brian Balldinger featured him a week or so ago & he broke down his "get off". Sometimes it appears as if he's offsides but it's pretty clear he's worked on his timing this off season. Trey gets the glory with sacks however Davenport is a big reason why we were able to pressure & sack Brady on Sunday. Add another feather in the cap for Coach Ryan Nielson. He's coaching (see Roach, Tuttle, Brown, David O) up these guys. "Disruption equals production" - JJ Watt. |
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Why is TL Lewis on the roster. I’d rather we suit up a black cat.
The guy brings nothing but bad luck. |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints vs San Francisco 49ers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020) RG (1) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020) WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tommylee Lewis (PS 2020) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 95 - Will Clarke (PS 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson, 69 - Anthony Zettel (PS 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen *DTR MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Kwon Alexander, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020), SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore *LEFT GAME/RETURNED, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 25 - Ken Crawley, 30 - Grant Haley (PS 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 53-man Roster Count - Total: 52; Offense: 25; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3 Reserve/Injured 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020) 77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020) 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020) 16 - Bennie Fowler (FA 2020) 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020) 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) 98 - Sheldon Rankins Reserve/Non-Football Injury 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020) Reserve/Opt-Out 85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020) 86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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Are there any free agents out there that could help us down the stretch? I read something about a few athletes sitting at home who could be a solid addition to this team. But I don't remember who they were. Thanks.
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Earl Thomas & Eric Reid. I believe Cameron Wake and Clay Matthews are still at home too. Not sure how much they have left (if any) in the tank. |
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I realize that we are in cap hell but we've been here before and survived, still I wonder if we can afford them and keep money for our own free agents next year. |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints vs San Francisco 49ers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020) *LP, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas *LP, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy *LP, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020) RG (1) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk *LP, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020) WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tommylee Lewis (PS 2020) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 95 - Will Clarke (PS 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson, 69 - Anthony Zettel (PS 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen *DTR MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Kwon Alexander, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020), SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 25 - Ken Crawley, 30 - Grant Haley (PS 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 53-man Roster Count - Total: 52; Offense: 25; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3 Reserve/Injured 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020) 77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020) 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020) 16 - Bennie Fowler (FA 2020) 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020) 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) 98 - Sheldon Rankins Reserve/Non-Football Injury 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020) Reserve/Opt-Out 85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020) 86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints vs San Francisco 49ers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020) *LP, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas *LP, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy *LP, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020) RG (1) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk *LP, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020) WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tommylee Lewis (PS 2020) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 95 - Will Clarke (PS 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020), Christian Ringo (PS 2020) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson, 69 - Anthony Zettel (PS 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen *DTR MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Kwon Alexander, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020), SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 25 - Ken Crawley, 30 - Grant Haley (PS 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 53-man Roster Count - Total: 52; Offense: 25; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3 Reserve/Injured 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020) 77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020) 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020) 16 - Bennie Fowler (FA 2020) 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020) 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) 98 - Sheldon Rankins Reserve/Non-Football Injury 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020) Reserve/Opt-Out 85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020) 86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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Zach Baun is looking increasingly like a square peg-round hole pick. He was a 3-4 OLB who we wanted to convert to off-ball LB and it just reeks of Kikaha all over again.
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Hopefully he stays healthy and help get us to where we want to be in late January. |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints vs San Francisco 49ers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020) *LP, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020) WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas *LP, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2020) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy *LP, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020) RG (1) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2020), 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk *LP, 73 - Ethan Greenidge TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020) WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tommylee Lewis (PS 2020) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 95 - Will Clarke (PS 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020), Christian Ringo (PS 2020) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson, 69 - Anthony Zettel (PS 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen *DTR MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Kwon Alexander, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020), SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 25 - Ken Crawley, 30 - Grant Haley (PS 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris 53-man Roster Count - Total: 52; Offense: 25; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3 Reserve/Injured 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020) 77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020) 4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020) 16 - Bennie Fowler (FA 2020) 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020) 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) 98 - Sheldon Rankins Reserve/Non-Football Injury 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020) Reserve/Opt-Out 85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020) 86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Practice Squad (PS 2020) Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT) Reserve/Covid-19 Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS:
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We've traded up multiple times for players that just get released before the season starts or never see the field. It doesn't feel like the Jeff Ireland drafts of old, which makes me think someone else is getting a little too involved again. |
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I think in due time Baun will be a good LB in New Orleans but we play quite a bit of nickel. A 3rd rounder with no training camp isn't going to make an impact right away.
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Just bring in a safety sitting at home. He has to play better than what we have. Last week we played well but I'm not hanging my Lombardi hopes on our secondary just yet.
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You're right though … had a decent game vs a QB that can't move. Need to see more consistency on the back end, specifically once post season arrives. |
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87 - Jared Cook ...
I think he bounces back on tomorrow. Remember he was destroying the Niners right up until the cheap shot in the end zone that ruined his night last year. |
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