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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 1: New Orleans Saints vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, In A Silent Dome

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020)

RB (2) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, *24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith

WR-S (1) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, *74 - James Hurst (FA 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 65 - John Leglue (PS 2020)

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24 - *OUT), 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020)

RG (2) 64 - Will Clapp, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 85 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240/PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 16 - Bennie Fowler (PS 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 96 - Carl Granderson, 92 - Marcus Davenport (*OUT)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 95 - Margus Hunt (PS 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 42 - Chase Hansen, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 55 - Kaden Elliss, *54 - Kiko Alonso (FA 2020 / *PUP), 58 - Anthony Chickillo (PS 2020), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Kemon Hall (PS 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris


53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 23; Defense: 25; Kicking: 4


Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform

54 - Kiko Alonso (FA 2020)


Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

74 - James Hurst (FA 2020)


Reserve/Covid-19

24 - Dwayne Washington


Reserve/Injured

29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020)

77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020)

57 - Anthony Lanier II (FA 2020)

33 - Saquan Hampton

4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)



Reserve/Non-Football Injury

57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)


Reserve/Opt-Out

85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020)

86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020)




KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury, Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

Reserve/Covid-19

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We have no idea on the severity of RUIZ's ankle injury so ...

I could see the Saints promoting James Hurst to the active roster after serving his 4 game suspension.

Insurance, vet experience and depth is key on the O line trenches.

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Nice.

Kind of surprised Erin Andrews was the first to break that news.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 1: New Orleans Saints vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, In A Silent Dome

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020)

RB (2) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, *24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020)

WR-S (1) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, *74 - James Hurst (FA 2020)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 65 - John Leglue (PS 2020)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24) *OUT, 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020)

RG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 85 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240/PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020)

WR-Z (3) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Bennie Fowler (FA 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 96 - Carl Granderson, 92 - Marcus Davenport *OUT

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 95 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 42 - Chase Hansen, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), *54 - Kiko Alonso (FA 2020) *PUP, 58 - Anthony Chickillo (PS 2020), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Kemon Hall (PS 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris


53-man Roster Count - Total: 54; Offense: 24; Defense: 26; Kicking: 4


Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform

54 - Kiko Alonso (FA 2020)


Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

74 - James Hurst (FA 2020)


Reserve/Covid-19

24 - Dwayne Washington


Reserve/Injured

29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020)

77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020)

57 - Anthony Lanier II (FA 2020)

33 - Saquan Hampton

4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)



Reserve/Non-Football Injury

57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)


Reserve/Opt-Out

85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020)

86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020)




KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury, Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

Reserve/Covid-19

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Week 2: New Orleans Saints @ Las Vegas Raiders

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (PS 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020)

WR-X (2) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 12 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 13 - Michael Thomas *DNP

WR-S (1) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2020), 80 - Austin Carr (PS 2020), 83 - Juwan Johnson (PS 2020), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (PS 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, *74 - James Hurst (FA 2020)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 65 - John Leglue (PS 2020)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24) *LP, 63 - Cameron Tom (PS 2020)

RG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 64 - Will Clapp, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (PS 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

TE (3) 89 - Josh Hill, 87 - Jared Cook, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 85 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240/PS 2020), 45 - Garrett Griffin (PS 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 16 - Bennie Fowler (PS 2020)


DEFENSE

RDE (3) 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 96 - Carl Granderson, 92 - Marcus Davenport *DNP

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle

DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 97 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 95 - Margus Hunt (PS 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 50 - Andrew Dowell (PS 2020)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 42 - Chase Hansen, 46 - Joe Bachie (PS 2020)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), *54 - Kiko Alonso (FA 2020) *PUP, 59 - Marcus Willoughby (PS 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 38 - Keith Washington (PS 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P. J. Williams (FA 2020) *FP

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Kemon Hall (PS 2020)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris


53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 24; Defense: 25; Kicking: 4


Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

74 - James Hurst (FA 2020)


Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform

54 - Kiko Alonso (FA 2020)


Reserve/Injured

29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020)

77 - Jalen Dalton (FA 2020)

4 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020)


Reserve/Opt-Out

85 - Cole Wick (FA 2020)

86 - Jason Vander Lann (FA 2020)




KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Practice Squad (PS 2020)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

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So true!

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Wish we could’ve kept DE Porter Gustin. I’m watching the Browns-Bengals game and apparently he plays for the Browns now and I just saw him knock the snot out of Burrow.

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Dude is going to be a stud.

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You are? You better be. If I remember correctly our success depends upon it.

:broccoli:

:party:

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CJ Gardner Johnson reminds me of someone but I can’t quite put my finger on who it is. Help me out here.

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I hope we see Zach Baun and/or Ruiz on Monday Night.

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We should see Ruiz. He was running with the ones all training camp.

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Well trequan has the opportunity to shine Monday , should have single coverage all day long. He aught to have a buck fifty and a couple of scores.


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Lol if only.

Trequan has single coverage whenever MT is on the field and hasn't done squat.

Seems we drafted him in the 2nd round to be only useful during run plays.

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Can’t disagree there except he was a turd rd pick


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Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling.

3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker :rolleyes:.

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I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot


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Nah, CSP likes the dude ... kind of like how he loves Austin 1 catch Carr.

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I would be curious to take an in depth look at the all 22's and see how often he is open when on the field. As I pointed out earlier, on all designed plays there are designed options #1 through #5. As long as Thomas is on the field he is going to be that first option much more often than not. Sanders would be #2 and then Cook or Kamara. Smith could be open every single play and never see the ball because of play design. Once again, a QB does not throw the ball to the most open receiver ... unless there is a totally blown coverage. They throw the ball to the FIRST open receiver in the play's progression.

At this point Smith's job is to be that 4th or 5th option. Undoubtedly there are a few plays where he might be up that option list a little higher and there may even be one or two plays per game where he is option #1. The only way he is going to be a six or seven catch guy on our current roster is for others to not be doing their job.

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Payton, and Carmichael's, total commitment to Thomas in play design is reminiscent of their dependence upon Jimmy Graham several years back. It might not be a bad thing for Thomas to miss a game to force Payton to get some other receivers, like Smith, more involved.

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All makes sense to me but all the write ups about trequan’s big break thru year coming because of his battle with injuries ; and to me (just can’t get open ) this year by coach’s and players tells me one thing shyyt or get off the pot . I’m pullin for the fella guys but what I see with my own eyes he can’t get separation , if that’s by design I’m all over it.


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I’m not so sure that it’s a top down paradigm that’s in play wrt MT#13. Yes, there is definitely a “dependence”. But CGM isn’t the #1 read on every play now, no different from Jimmy Graham not being the #1 read then. It’s very simple, it’s a cerebral QB who gets “locked” in with an individual, and regardless of playcalling and/or the game plan, will, out of habit, or trust, or whatever reason, go through his reads until he gets the guy he likes, maybe it’s a trust thing, I don’t know. I know I read a stat the other day that stunned me, and I can no longer find it. Since MT#13’s arrival, he has more targets and completions than ALL other WR’s who are on the roster now, or who have left. COMBINED.

That’s not a system, imho. That’s a HOF QB recognizing he’s got a young superstar of a WR, one that refuses to fail, and he looks to feed him the ball, every time he can. Nothing wrong with that, it’s actually smart..., unless you no longer have him all of a sudden, like now. Regardless, it’s my belief that DB#9 knows how to spread it around, and now he will be forced to. I truly hope we have a healthy vertical game with DB#9 under center. I’ve grown weary of gadget plays, and dink/dunk, but that’s just little old me. I want to see Brees to Cook (or any other on our team) for 46 yards down the sideline 17 times a game! (17 is a bit excessive, hyperbolic, but I think you get my point).

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A 3rd rd draft selection is your 4th or 5th option? ... Taysom is doing what TS should be doing in this offense.

AG - TQS is exactly who he is. He’s a low upside WR who is a solid blocker who struggles significantly to get separation. He does nothing particularly well...he’s not a burner and won’t be winning deep unless he’s left open, he doesn’t win contested passes over the middle of the field, and does little after the catch. He’s pretty much the definition of “meh”. He’s just good enough to be on an NFL roster but not someone you’re thrilled about having a significant role.

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That IS his role, however. That is far more on Payton and Carmichael than it is on Smith himself. You are far too hung up on draft position. It matters not whether he was drafted in the 1st or undrafted. He is playing the role he is given. With Thomas out his role will undoubtedly change to some degree, as will the role of most others.

And I have a feeling you are projecting "struggling significantly to get separation" as a reason for few targets. That's why I think it would be a good idea to verify that is indeed a fact by checking out the all 22's. I think you would be surprised how often he is indeed open.

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Being hung up on draft position is absolutely fine, considering Trequan is less useful than Brandon Coleman was, and Brandon was an UDFA.

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Because that was his role as given by Payton and Carmichael. Coleman actually played three seasons and was cut. Let's see what Smith does in his third season, okay?