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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by voodooido Because they sure are acting like it. Nope. They were upset and talked it through, came to an understanding, and moved on. That's how adults work things....

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Old 06-09-2020, 04:11 PM   #251
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

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Because they sure are acting like it.
Nope. They were upset and talked it through, came to an understanding, and moved on. That's how adults work things.
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Old 06-10-2020, 01:23 PM   #252
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

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Nope. They were upset and talked it through, came to an understanding, and moved on. That's how adults work things.
I disagree. Do you think brees doesn’t feel the way he initially spoke? IMO he recanted because they attacked him. He wanted to ease the tension so he caved. That’s not being an adult. Jenkins and MT attacked him. They acted like kids because someone has a different opinion
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:40 PM   #253
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

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I disagree. Do you think brees doesn’t feel the way he initially spoke? IMO he recanted because they attacked him. He wanted to ease the tension so he caved. That’s not being an adult. Jenkins and MT attacked him. They acted like kids because someone has a different opinion
I absolutely think he doesn't feel the way he initially spoke. It is called understanding through conversation. It is a thing adults do. I was right there with him. When the kneeling protests first started I felt exactly the same way as what Brees described. I have since had many meaningful conversations and have come to realize I was wrong. The athletes were not protesting the flag itself. They were using the moment to force the start of a dialog involving issues including police brutality. Just like myself, Brees didn't recant because of any attacks. He recanted because of true honest dialog. Jenkins and ALL of his teammates accepted his apology because they understood where he was coming from at first, as well.

Would I personally kneel during the national anthem? I doubt it, but I most certainly understand why others would and I now stand behind their right as Americans to do such. You see, I am an adult and can learn through meaningful conversation.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:47 PM   #254
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I absolutely think he doesn't feel the way he initially spoke. It is called understanding through conversation. It is a thing adults do. I was right there with him. When the kneeling protests first started I felt exactly the same way as what Brees described. I have since had many meaningful conversations and have come to realize I was wrong. The athletes were not protesting the flag itself. They were using the moment to force the start of a dialog involving issues including police brutality. Just like myself, Brees didn't recant because of any attacks. He recanted because of true honest dialog. Jenkins and ALL of his teammates accepted his apology because they understood where he was coming from at first, as well.

Would I personally kneel during the national anthem? I doubt it, but I most certainly understand why others would and I now stand behind their right as Americans to do such. You see, I am an adult and can learn through meaningful conversation.
I understand and respect your reasoning here, but Jenkins can't be included in this "adult understanding conversation." He went on social media and told Brees to "Shut the F*** up" and then accepted an apology when Brees accepted his teammates point of view.

There seemed to be no effort from Jenkins or Thomas to try and understand Brees' point (not saying Brees was right btw), they just threw him under the bus on social media until he apologised.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:50 PM   #255
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

Also, I'd like to add that whilst Drew did miss the point, I'm genuinely shocked at how many people willingly turned their back on him.

Without Brees, we are still experiencing 3 win seasons, still have the same amount of super bowls as the falcons and likely still the league doormat. Not to mention all the money and effort he's put into the community for 15 years.

I know this is bigger than football, I truly get that, but to call Brees a racist is ludicrous.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:53 PM   #256
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

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I understand and respect your reasoning here, but Jenkins can't be included in this "adult understanding conversation." He went on social media and told Brees to "Shut the F*** up" and then accepted an apology when Brees accepted his teammates point of view.

There seemed to be no effort from Jenkins or Thomas to try and understand Brees' point (not saying Brees was right btw), they just threw him under the bus on social media until he apologised.
How can you say that without being part of the personal conversation? Who is to say they didn't understand Brees' point? It doesn't change the fact that the kneeling was never meant to be an attack on the flag itself, but instead a call for dialog. Understandings are commonly come to when things are said in haste. Have you never said something to your loved one that you came to realize was over the top later?
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How can you say that without being part of the personal conversation? Who is to say they didn't understand Brees' point? It doesn't change the fact that the kneeling was never meant to be an attack on the flag itself, but instead a call for dialog. Understandings are commonly come to when things are said in haste. Have you never said something to your loved one that you came to realize was over the top later?
Of course I have, our closest family and friends are unfortunately the people we hurt the most sometimes. But I dont go on Facebook and post a status or video telling them to Shut the F*** up, that everyone can see, that's a cowards way to do things.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:03 PM   #258
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

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Of course I have, our closest family and friends are unfortunately the people we hurt the most sometimes. But I dont go on Facebook and post a status or video telling them to Shut the F*** up, that everyone can see, that's a cowards way to do things.
In today's world with COVID and everything, people react badly. If Brees and Jenkins left their conversation on good terms, which they both have implied, then cooler heads prevailed. That's a good thing.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:07 PM   #259
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In today's world with COVID and everything, people react badly. If Brees and Jenkins left their conversation on good terms, which they both have implied, then coolers heads prevailed. That's a good thing.
That I can agree with, working for the NHS, I see people react badly every day lol
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:17 PM   #260
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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

Drew Brees believes exactly as he first stated. Does Brees is afraid of tarnishing his reputation and opportunity to be on TV after football since this is his final season. Drew Brees is a coward.

Any man that says someone needs to STFU for stating their opinion is a P who is incapable of holding his emotions.

Everything else surrounding the topic is BS and some people like that. They really enjoy being lied to, tickles them down deep.
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