Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season?

73Saint · 06-29-2020, 10:11 AM

I'll be watching every bit. Still entertainment to me.

WillMacKenzie · 06-29-2020, 10:18 AM

I'm slow, set aside the NFL for a minute and explain to me how tv networks get their money to pay the NFL?

If I contracted the NFL to cater a benefit I was having for my cancer foundation, and they showed up with highly controversial staff and subpar food, how is that going to help me recoup my money? Surely we would have to negotiate something.

Maybe it's in the contract that the NFL can do whatever they want and the networks have to televise their latest social campaigns. Many businesses are far too eager to pontificate and change logos at the drop of dime, so that could be the case with the networks too, so I could be wrong in assuming advertisers would even care in the first place. In which case, whatever, we aren't operating in rational times anyway.

AsylumGuido · 06-29-2020, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I'm slow, set aside the NFL for a minute and explain to me how tv networks get their money to pay the NFL?

If I contracted the NFL to cater a benefit I was having for my cancer foundation, and they showed up with highly controversial staff and subpar food, how is that going to help me recoup my money? Surely we would have to negotiate something.

Maybe it's in the contract that the NFL can do whatever they want and the networks have to televise their latest social campaigns. Many businesses are far too eager to pontificate and change logos at the drop of dime, so that could be the case with the networks too, so I could be wrong in assuming advertisers would even care in the first place. In which case, whatever, we aren't operating in rational times anyway.

I'll bite. TV networks get almost all of their money from advertisers. Has it occurred to you that advertisers are the very reason WHY the NFL has changed their stance? Corporations all across the country are coming to terms that not following along with the prevalent wave of awareness will hurt their bottom lines. That's why so many have changed their televised advertising to reflect the same. They wouldn't want to advertise during NFL broadcasts if the league wasn't on the same page. That makes sense. The NFL is in the entertainment business. They make most of that business income off broadcasting contracts. The networks could easily be putting the pressure on the league to conform to their and the advertiser's liberal ideals.

I fear you have had the tail wagging the dog in your line of thinking.

Beastmode · 06-30-2020, 09:34 PM

I'm woke now. I'll be watching. I finally accepted I was wrong to call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat when I was 15 but I was an immature child. I have grown to appreciate her music. Guilty as charged. Take it or leave it. Time to play some football. Cats in the cradle...all that s!@$ whatever.

iceshack149 · 07-01-2020, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I'm woke now. I'll be watching. I finally accepted I was wrong to call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat when I was 15 but I was an immature child. I have grown to appreciate her music. Guilty as charged. Take it or leave it. Time to play some football. Cats in the cradle...all that s!@$ whatever.

Cancel him!!

I didn't call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat but I did have discussions with my friends about whether the singer was male or female.

I assumed a person's gender in the 80's.

Cancel me!!

Beastmode · 07-01-2020, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Cancel him!!

I didn't call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat but I did have discussions with my friends about whether the singer was male or female.

I assumed a person's gender in the 80's.

Cancel me!!

Nevermind. I'm working on a covid 19 mask with an imprint of Rock's chin from the movie Mask on it. It's taking two mask to get it all on there.

WillMacKenzie · 07-01-2020, 12:30 PM

I never had a fast car.

iceshack149 · 07-01-2020, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I never had a fast car.

I had a 1987 SS Monte Carlo. That was a fast car. Problem was, I vacillated and ended up livin' and dyin' this way rather than leaving that night.

lynwood · 07-02-2020, 07:57 AM

Not that enthused with watching any sport at the moment. The NFL has been creating these story lines that create controversy and a soap opera environment for awhile. Bad referee calls, politics, ridiculous amount of commercial breaks have been injected into the game for the last few years. I'd have to watch the game missing the Anthem and with the sound turned off to not get spun into any controversy or topic of the day. The NFL has become less sport and more "entertainment". So I can't say I will watch any game with certainty this year. I might peak my head in every once in a while out of morbid curiosity but all i'll have to do is probably look at one of the news channels to see that somewhere between a controversy and a political statement, a game was played.

frydaddy · 07-02-2020, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Not that enthused with watching any sport at the moment. The NFL has been creating these story lines that create controversy and a soap opera environment for awhile. Bad referee calls, politics, ridiculous amount of commercial breaks have been injected into the game for the last few years. I'd have to watch the game missing the Anthem and with the sound turned off to not get spun into any controversy or topic of the day. The NFL has become less sport and more "entertainment". So I can't say I will watch any game with certainty this year. I might peak my head in every once in a while out of morbid curiosity but all i'll have to do is probably look at one of the news channels to see that somewhere between a controversy and a political statement, a game was played.

This perfectly sums up how I feel about it.

06-29-2020, 10:11 AM	#1
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? I'll be watching every bit. Still entertainment to me. K Major likes this.

06-29-2020, 10:18 AM	#2
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? I'm slow, set aside the NFL for a minute and explain to me how tv networks get their money to pay the NFL? If I contracted the NFL to cater a benefit I was having for my cancer foundation, and they showed up with highly controversial staff and subpar food, how is that going to help me recoup my money? Surely we would have to negotiate something. Maybe it's in the contract that the NFL can do whatever they want and the networks have to televise their latest social campaigns. Many businesses are far too eager to pontificate and change logos at the drop of dime, so that could be the case with the networks too, so I could be wrong in assuming advertisers would even care in the first place. In which case, whatever, we aren't operating in rational times anyway.

06-29-2020, 10:56 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,565	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I'm slow, set aside the NFL for a minute and explain to me how tv networks get their money to pay the NFL? If I contracted the NFL to cater a benefit I was having for my cancer foundation, and they showed up with highly controversial staff and subpar food, how is that going to help me recoup my money? Surely we would have to negotiate something. Maybe it's in the contract that the NFL can do whatever they want and the networks have to televise their latest social campaigns. Many businesses are far too eager to pontificate and change logos at the drop of dime, so that could be the case with the networks too, so I could be wrong in assuming advertisers would even care in the first place. In which case, whatever, we aren't operating in rational times anyway. I'll bite. TV networks get almost all of their money from advertisers. Has it occurred to you that advertisers are the very reason WHY the NFL has changed their stance? Corporations all across the country are coming to terms that not following along with the prevalent wave of awareness will hurt their bottom lines. That's why so many have changed their televised advertising to reflect the same. They wouldn't want to advertise during NFL broadcasts if the league wasn't on the same page. That makes sense. The NFL is in the entertainment business. They make most of that business income off broadcasting contracts. The networks could easily be putting the pressure on the league to conform to their and the advertiser's liberal ideals. I fear you have had the tail wagging the dog in your line of thinking. rezburna likes this.
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06-30-2020, 09:34 PM	#4
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? I'm woke now. I'll be watching. I finally accepted I was wrong to call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat when I was 15 but I was an immature child. I have grown to appreciate her music. Guilty as charged. Take it or leave it. Time to play some football. Cats in the cradle...all that s!@$ whatever. skymike and Rugby Saint II like this.
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07-01-2020, 11:31 AM	#5
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,363 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? Originally Posted by Beastmode I'm woke now. I'll be watching. I finally accepted I was wrong to call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat when I was 15 but I was an immature child. I have grown to appreciate her music. Guilty as charged. Take it or leave it. Time to play some football. Cats in the cradle...all that s!@$ whatever. Cancel him!! I didn't call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat but I did have discussions with my friends about whether the singer was male or female. I assumed a person's gender in the 80's. Cancel me!!

07-01-2020, 12:52 PM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? Originally Posted by iceshack149 Cancel him!! I didn't call Tracy Chapman Buckwheat but I did have discussions with my friends about whether the singer was male or female. I assumed a person's gender in the 80's. Cancel me!! Nevermind. I'm working on a covid 19 mask with an imprint of Rock's chin from the movie Mask on it. It's taking two mask to get it all on there. skymike likes this.
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07-01-2020, 12:30 PM	#7
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? I never had a fast car. skymike and OldMaid like this.

07-01-2020, 12:42 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,363 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I never had a fast car. I had a 1987 SS Monte Carlo. That was a fast car. Problem was, I vacillated and ended up livin' and dyin' this way rather than leaving that night. WillMacKenzie and skymike like this.

07-02-2020, 07:57 AM	#9
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? Not that enthused with watching any sport at the moment. The NFL has been creating these story lines that create controversy and a soap opera environment for awhile. Bad referee calls, politics, ridiculous amount of commercial breaks have been injected into the game for the last few years. I'd have to watch the game missing the Anthem and with the sound turned off to not get spun into any controversy or topic of the day. The NFL has become less sport and more "entertainment". So I can't say I will watch any game with certainty this year. I might peak my head in every once in a while out of morbid curiosity but all i'll have to do is probably look at one of the news channels to see that somewhere between a controversy and a political statement, a game was played. skymike and frydaddy like this.

07-02-2020, 10:13 AM	#10
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Survey: Are you going to watch the Saints this season? Originally Posted by lynwood Not that enthused with watching any sport at the moment. The NFL has been creating these story lines that create controversy and a soap opera environment for awhile. Bad referee calls, politics, ridiculous amount of commercial breaks have been injected into the game for the last few years. I'd have to watch the game missing the Anthem and with the sound turned off to not get spun into any controversy or topic of the day. The NFL has become less sport and more "entertainment". So I can't say I will watch any game with certainty this year. I might peak my head in every once in a while out of morbid curiosity but all i'll have to do is probably look at one of the news channels to see that somewhere between a controversy and a political statement, a game was played. This perfectly sums up how I feel about it.