Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

halloween 65 · 09-23-2020, 02:37 PM

Honestly Brees looked bad. Worst than I ever seen him look. I feel for the guy.

Rugby Saint II · 09-23-2020, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Honestly Brees looked bad. Worst than I ever seen him look. I feel for the guy.

He looked sluggish and not crisp n the least. He worked all off season doing some shot putting or throwing some sort of heavy ball to increase his strength, which was his focus this year. Maybe it cost him his accuracy which is his strength. Can he get it back? My gut tells me yes...possibly for even a couple of more years.

I truly believe that when the Saints O-line finds their timing, gels and gets in sync then we'll be back to a top tier unit enforcing our will on other teams. Sanders has to get comfortable in Payton's complex play book with an abbreviated intro to the offense. I believe that he'll get in tune with Drew sooner rather than later. Payton has to start using Murray more. He was obviously in the beginning of the game but as usual he got away from him. Tre' Quan still dropped balls and I believe he ran the wrong route at least once. He had good YAC though and threw a nice block for a big gain. He has to be more consistent...still has to be more consistent. Bottom line in my opinion the receivers couldn't get separation and were owned all night.

The defense started Strong but then fell apart. DA never adjusted to their evolving game plan. We might have been out coached now that I think about it. There were far too many missed tackles after the initial strong start by the defense who put up a weak front four.

AsylumGuido · 09-23-2020, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

He looked sluggish and not crisp n the least. He worked all off season doing some shot putting or throwing some sort of heavy ball to increase his strength, which was his focus this year. Maybe it cost him his accuracy which is his strength. Can he get it back? My gut tells me yes...possibly for even a couple of more years.

I truly believe that when the Saints O-line finds their timing, gels and gets in sync then we'll be back to a top tier unit enforcing our will on other teams. Sanders has to get comfortable in Payton's complex play book with an abbreviated intro to the offense. I believe that he'll get in tune with Drew sooner rather than later. Payton has to start using Murray more. He was obviously in the beginning of the game but as usual he got away from him. Tre' Quan still dropped balls and I believe he ran the wrong route at least once. He had good YAC though and threw a nice block for a big gain. He has to be more consistent...still has to be more consistent. Bottom line in my opinion the receivers couldn't get separation and were owned all night.

The defense started Strong but then fell apart. DA never adjusted to their evolving game plan. We might have been out coached now that I think about it. There were far too many missed tackles after the initial strong start by the defense who put up a weak front four.

Penalties. The Saints now have 248 yards in penalties after the first two game. The next closest has 198. Sixteen total penalties which is 2nd in the league.

That was the game.

gosaints1 · 09-23-2020, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Penalties. The Saints now have 148 yards in penalties after the first two game. The next closest has 198. Sixteen total penalties which is 2nd in the league.

That was the game.

148? lol, I know what you meant, fat-fingered the “2” huh? lol and yes, it was a huge reason the Saints defense remained on the field as long as they did. Five first downs from the penalties was painful to watch. I still believe that Waller imposing his will had a demoralizing affect that the Saints couldn’t bounce back from. There are games within the games. The numbers/stats game, the physical game, the mental game, etc... Waller dominated the field, that hurt. Alot.

AsylumGuido · 09-23-2020, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

148? lol, I know what you meant, fat-fingered the “2” huh? lol and yes, it was a huge reason the Saints defense remained on the field as long as they did. Five first downs from the penalties was painful to watch. I still believe that Waller imposing his will had a demoralizing affect that the Saints couldn’t bounce back from. There are games within the games. The numbers/stats game, the physical game, the mental game, etc... Waller dominated the field, that hurt. Alot.

Yes. Thanks! Fat fingered for sure. I usually have spellcheck to find my arthritic typing mistakes, but it cannot tell me I have typed a number wrong. It is a ***** growing old.

Beastmode · 09-23-2020, 06:49 PM

Not a big deal. Ratings are still down. People still think the Saints are headed for glory.

09-23-2020, 02:37 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Honestly Brees looked bad. Worst than I ever seen him look. I feel for the guy. jnormand and dizzle88 like this.

09-23-2020, 04:19 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by halloween 65 Honestly Brees looked bad. Worst than I ever seen him look. I feel for the guy. He looked sluggish and not crisp n the least. He worked all off season doing some shot putting or throwing some sort of heavy ball to increase his strength, which was his focus this year. Maybe it cost him his accuracy which is his strength. Can he get it back? My gut tells me yes...possibly for even a couple of more years. I truly believe that when the Saints O-line finds their timing, gels and gets in sync then we'll be back to a top tier unit enforcing our will on other teams. Sanders has to get comfortable in Payton's complex play book with an abbreviated intro to the offense. I believe that he'll get in tune with Drew sooner rather than later. Payton has to start using Murray more. He was obviously in the beginning of the game but as usual he got away from him. Tre' Quan still dropped balls and I believe he ran the wrong route at least once. He had good YAC though and threw a nice block for a big gain. He has to be more consistent...still has to be more consistent. Bottom line in my opinion the receivers couldn't get separation and were owned all night. The defense started Strong but then fell apart. DA never adjusted to their evolving game plan. We might have been out coached now that I think about it. There were far too many missed tackles after the initial strong start by the defense who put up a weak front four. iceshack149 likes this.
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09-23-2020, 04:28 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II He looked sluggish and not crisp n the least. He worked all off season doing some shot putting or throwing some sort of heavy ball to increase his strength, which was his focus this year. Maybe it cost him his accuracy which is his strength. Can he get it back? My gut tells me yes...possibly for even a couple of more years. I truly believe that when the Saints O-line finds their timing, gels and gets in sync then we'll be back to a top tier unit enforcing our will on other teams. Sanders has to get comfortable in Payton's complex play book with an abbreviated intro to the offense. I believe that he'll get in tune with Drew sooner rather than later. Payton has to start using Murray more. He was obviously in the beginning of the game but as usual he got away from him. Tre' Quan still dropped balls and I believe he ran the wrong route at least once. He had good YAC though and threw a nice block for a big gain. He has to be more consistent...still has to be more consistent. Bottom line in my opinion the receivers couldn't get separation and were owned all night. The defense started Strong but then fell apart. DA never adjusted to their evolving game plan. We might have been out coached now that I think about it. There were far too many missed tackles after the initial strong start by the defense who put up a weak front four. Penalties. The Saints now have 248 yards in penalties after the first two game. The next closest has 198. Sixteen total penalties which is 2nd in the league. That was the game. gosaints1 likes this.

09-23-2020, 06:43 PM	#4
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Penalties. The Saints now have 148 yards in penalties after the first two game. The next closest has 198. Sixteen total penalties which is 2nd in the league. That was the game. 148? lol, I know what you meant, fat-fingered the “2” huh? lol and yes, it was a huge reason the Saints defense remained on the field as long as they did. Five first downs from the penalties was painful to watch. I still believe that Waller imposing his will had a demoralizing affect that the Saints couldn’t bounce back from. There are games within the games. The numbers/stats game, the physical game, the mental game, etc... Waller dominated the field, that hurt. Alot.
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09-23-2020, 08:51 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by gosaints1 148? lol, I know what you meant, fat-fingered the “2” huh? lol and yes, it was a huge reason the Saints defense remained on the field as long as they did. Five first downs from the penalties was painful to watch. I still believe that Waller imposing his will had a demoralizing affect that the Saints couldn’t bounce back from. There are games within the games. The numbers/stats game, the physical game, the mental game, etc... Waller dominated the field, that hurt. Alot. Yes. Thanks! Fat fingered for sure. I usually have spellcheck to find my arthritic typing mistakes, but it cannot tell me I have typed a number wrong. It is a ***** growing old. gosaints1 likes this.

09-23-2020, 06:49 PM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Not a big deal. Ratings are still down. People still think the Saints are headed for glory.
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