Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

Beastmode · 09-23-2020, 07:49 PM

Not a big deal. Ratings are still down. People still think the Saints are headed for glory.

The Dude · 09-23-2020, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drops? Sanders didn't have any dropped passes. Montgomery and Cook lead the team in drops after two games with one a piece.

I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week?

AsylumGuido · 09-23-2020, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

148? lol, I know what you meant, fat-fingered the “2” huh? lol and yes, it was a huge reason the Saints defense remained on the field as long as they did. Five first downs from the penalties was painful to watch. I still believe that Waller imposing his will had a demoralizing affect that the Saints couldn’t bounce back from. There are games within the games. The numbers/stats game, the physical game, the mental game, etc... Waller dominated the field, that hurt. Alot.

Yes. Thanks! Fat fingered for sure. I usually have spellcheck to find my arthritic typing mistakes, but it cannot tell me I have typed a number wrong. It is a ***** growing old.

AsylumGuido · 09-23-2020, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week?

The second. Been crying in my pillow. Not literally, but I am so invested into my Saints it is still a dagger through the heart.

Sorry. It's how I roll. Been an all in die hard fan for 53 years. Never going to end until I die.

gosaints1 · 09-23-2020, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes. Thanks! Fat fingered for sure. I usually have spellcheck to find my arthritic typing mistakes, but it cannot tell me I have typed a number wrong. It is a ***** growing old.

lol, I hear you, fully understand..., and agree. I’m above ground though! And that ain’t ½ bad.

halloween 65 · 09-23-2020, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The Titans can stretch the field. You stack the box on them and they have a mobile QB with a strong enough arm to throw it deep in Ryan Tannehill. You stack the box on the Titans and they can take the top off. It’s pick your poison. That isn’t the situation here with the Saints. If a teams stacks the box to take away the run game nobody has to worry about Brees carving them up. Even if the run game is working it’s not going to open up the field. He’s going to dump it off whether it’s play action or out of the shotgun. The Vikings gave teams the cure and and everybody is executing it to perfection. Believe me bruh...we gotta sit him. I know everybody still has high hopes because it’s early, but this won’t get better for him.

I can agree. I'm also thinking Hill will get his shot. In the previos post you mentioned 4 teams, all with very good to great ground games with mobile qb's. Unless Brees can run( which eveyone knows he can't) it has an affect on players like Kamara doing what he does. Enter a good ( doesn't have to be great) mobile qb. I think it opens up the O quite a bit. Ole crablegs can do it to. It will be a very sad day if they sit Brees but if it's necessary so be it. What do you think the O looks like with someone with wheels under center?

rezburna · 09-23-2020, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I can agree. I'm also thinking Hill will get his shot. In the previos post you mentioned 4 teams, all with very good to great ground games with mobile qb's. Unless Brees can run( which eveyone knows he can't) it has an affect on players like Kamara doing what he does. Enter a good ( doesn't have to be great) mobile qb. I think it opens up the O quite a bit. Ole crablegs can do it to. It will be a very sad day if they sit Brees but if it's necessary so be it. What do you think the O looks like with someone with wheels under center?

Modern. RPO’s. **** teams haven’t see a lot of on film from the Saints. Possibly more interceptions than we’ve been accustomed to; but we need to find out.

09-23-2020, 07:49 PM	#51
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drops? Sanders didn't have any dropped passes. Montgomery and Cook lead the team in drops after two games with one a piece. I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week?
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by gosaints1 148? lol, I know what you meant, fat-fingered the “2” huh? lol and yes, it was a huge reason the Saints defense remained on the field as long as they did. Five first downs from the penalties was painful to watch. I still believe that Waller imposing his will had a demoralizing affect that the Saints couldn’t bounce back from. There are games within the games. The numbers/stats game, the physical game, the mental game, etc... Waller dominated the field, that hurt. Alot. Yes. Thanks! Fat fingered for sure. I usually have spellcheck to find my arthritic typing mistakes, but it cannot tell me I have typed a number wrong. It is a ***** growing old. gosaints1 likes this.

09-23-2020, 09:56 PM	#54
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by The Dude I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week? The second. Been crying in my pillow. Not literally, but I am so invested into my Saints it is still a dagger through the heart. Sorry. It's how I roll. Been an all in die hard fan for 53 years. Never going to end until I die.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes. Thanks! Fat fingered for sure. I usually have spellcheck to find my arthritic typing mistakes, but it cannot tell me I have typed a number wrong. It is a ***** growing old. lol, I hear you, fully understand..., and agree. I’m above ground though! And that ain’t ½ bad.
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09-23-2020, 10:33 PM	#56
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by rezburna The Titans can stretch the field. You stack the box on them and they have a mobile QB with a strong enough arm to throw it deep in Ryan Tannehill. You stack the box on the Titans and they can take the top off. It’s pick your poison. That isn’t the situation here with the Saints. If a teams stacks the box to take away the run game nobody has to worry about Brees carving them up. Even if the run game is working it’s not going to open up the field. He’s going to dump it off whether it’s play action or out of the shotgun. The Vikings gave teams the cure and and everybody is executing it to perfection. Believe me bruh...we gotta sit him. I know everybody still has high hopes because it’s early, but this won’t get better for him. I can agree. I'm also thinking Hill will get his shot. In the previos post you mentioned 4 teams, all with very good to great ground games with mobile qb's. Unless Brees can run( which eveyone knows he can't) it has an affect on players like Kamara doing what he does. Enter a good ( doesn't have to be great) mobile qb. I think it opens up the O quite a bit. Ole crablegs can do it to. It will be a very sad day if they sit Brees but if it's necessary so be it. What do you think the O looks like with someone with wheels under center?

09-23-2020, 11:37 PM	#57
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by halloween 65 I can agree. I'm also thinking Hill will get his shot. In the previos post you mentioned 4 teams, all with very good to great ground games with mobile qb's. Unless Brees can run( which eveyone knows he can't) it has an affect on players like Kamara doing what he does. Enter a good ( doesn't have to be great) mobile qb. I think it opens up the O quite a bit. Ole crablegs can do it to. It will be a very sad day if they sit Brees but if it's necessary so be it. What do you think the O looks like with someone with wheels under center? Modern. RPO’s. **** teams haven’t see a lot of on film from the Saints. Possibly more interceptions than we’ve been accustomed to; but we need to find out.