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M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well. ...

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Old 09-28-2020, 10:47 AM   #1
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 View Post
Really? After watching then play....this is the best you can come up with? What about the other teams that are undefeated or are at least playing good football that have had players speak out as well.

Everyone has to do their job and do it better....including Brees.

What you just wrote is a cop-out.
Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in “floor is lava” commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the team’s chemistry is unknown. It wouldn’t be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the “leader” of the team. Leader’s prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards.

It’s my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints don’t make the playoffs, if they don’t. But I’m still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least.
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:21 PM   #2
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Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

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Not a total cop-out. There was an internal dust up, between DB#9 and team members, publicly, resulting in “floor is lava” commentary. How much that played, or still plays in the team’s chemistry is unknown. It wouldn’t be a huge leap of faith to see that breakdown as a negative and possibly affecting the team so much that it manifests in on the field confidence/play. That being said, it is my belief that DB#9 is no longer the “leader” of the team. Leader’s prove it with their play, there is no hesitation or indecisiveness, both of which I see in DB#9 almost every time he has to throw anything over ten yards.

It’s my belief that leadership, on the field of play through playing, would be the reason the Saints don’t make the playoffs, if they don’t. But I’m still of the mindset that this team is the team to beat in the NFC South, 13 more games to play, at least.
If that’s the case I think Brees should have just retired if he let that be the end of it and he wouldn’t have needed to fold, as some say he did.

If they let this trickle on the field and it’s truly the reason why this team is struggling then there was never any true leadership on this team to start with.

Simply put, this team is not playing good football on either side of the ball. Part of it is coaching but most of it is just poor execution by the players.

I’m not sure that we are the best team in the NFC South. Right now I say we might be the second team but if Atlanta will be a problem for us because of how explosive they are, especially since we really don’t have the ability to threaten defenses down the field.

As you said, 13 more games but if we don’t see a major turnaround, I have a feeling this is going to be an ugly season.
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:31 PM   #3
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If that’s the case I think Brees should have just retired if he let that be the end of it and he wouldn’t have needed to fold, as some say he did.

If they let this trickle on the field and it’s truly the reason why this team is struggling then there was never any true leadership on this team to start with.

Simply put, this team is not playing good football on either side of the ball. Part of it is coaching but most of it is just poor execution by the players.

I’m not sure that we are the best team in the NFC South. Right now I say we might be the second team but if Atlanta will be a problem for us because of how explosive they are, especially since we really don’t have the ability to threaten defenses down the field.

As you said, 13 more games but if we don’t see a major turnaround, I have a feeling this is going to be an ugly season.
Losing is always ugly, and imho, it could get Jaguars ugly here also, if the losing continues. I’ve thought DB#9 should have retired every year for the last six years though. Three 7-9 seasons, the two 13-3, and the 11-5 season. But, my belief has absolutely nothing to do with a social justice stance.
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