Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****

Rugby Saint II · 10-28-2020, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The shoulder tackles are definitely annoying.

Annoying is an understatement! There are too many words to describe the shoulder tackles. It is

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K Major · 10-27-2020, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by papz

The players shouldn't be absolved of poor play either. For instance every time I see one of those turds going for a highlight shoulder tackle, it makes my blood boil. It's not like they aren't taught to tackle correctly. It's not like they're taught to take horrendous angles. There's plenty of blame to go around from top to bottom. It's the coaches job to put them in position and the players job to make plays.

But how many times have you heard CSP at his post-game media coverage say, “It starts with us, the coaching staff”.

Well then …

K Major · 10-27-2020, 01:29 PM

Papz,

I totally get it on the players though. If one player regresses, the blame likely falls on the player. If the whole unit regresses, it points toward coaching.

papz · 10-27-2020, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Papz,

I totally get it on the players though. If one player regresses, the blame likely falls on the player. If the whole unit regresses, it points toward coaching.

I agree. The coaching has been awlful. Just pointing out it doesn't have to be one or the other.

st thomas · 10-27-2020, 02:53 PM

I heard deuce mc commit on I believe it’s Marcus Williams that it’s time to pull that dude he can’t correct his play it’s time to move on

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K Major · 10-27-2020, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I heard deuce mc commit on I believe it’s Marcus Williams that it’s time to pull that dude he can’t correct his play it’s time to move on

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Deuce, Hebert and even Swilling "hinted" at it. His blunders are starting to be called out by guys who have played the game. Tackling, coverage lapses you name it.

Try MJ or Swearinger at Free Safety if you don't plan on making a trade before the deadline.

You can't continue to hold Marcus Williams hand forever.

rezburna · 10-27-2020, 04:44 PM

I honestly don’t know why Earl Thomas isn’t here. The Saints want to run the Cover 1/Cover 3 style defense that Seattle ran but with more emphasis on Cover 1...so why not go get the guy that’s used to it? That’s his specialty. He can handle the center fielder style of play.

FinSaint · 10-28-2020, 03:52 PM

Is it Dennis Allen or Aaron Glenn... or both.

Swapping the d-coordinator mid season is troublesome, since the defense isn't bottom of the league.

Maybe a new secondary coach could be a wake-up call even if Glenn's not the reason for the bad secondary performance.

st thomas · 10-31-2020, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Is it Dennis Allen or Aaron Glenn... or both.

Swapping the d-coordinator mid season is troublesome, since the defense isn't bottom of the league.

Maybe a new secondary coach could be a wake-up call even if Glenn's not the reason for the bad secondary performance.

It’s both , does anyone see this defense can completely turn this around into a super bowl de. I really was giving them to the midpoint to (get it ) it’s looking grim

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Rugby Saint II · 10-31-2020, 01:03 PM

The offense is slowly getting better each week. However, the defense gets worse each week....I will admit that Davenport helped the front seven but the back end still needs help desperately.

10-28-2020, 12:24 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by rezburna** The shoulder tackles are definitely annoying. Annoying is an understatement! There are too many words to describe the shoulder tackles. It is ....

10-27-2020, 01:27 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by papz** The players shouldn't be absolved of poor play either. For instance every time I see one of those turds going for a highlight shoulder tackle, it makes my blood boil. It's not like they aren't taught to tackle correctly. It's not like they're taught to take horrendous angles. There's plenty of blame to go around from top to bottom. It's the coaches job to put them in position and the players job to make plays. But how many times have you heard CSP at his post-game media coverage say, “It starts with us, the coaching staff”. Well then …

10-27-2020, 01:29 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like **** Papz, I totally get it on the players though. If one player regresses, the blame likely falls on the player. If the whole unit regresses, it points toward coaching. gosaints1 likes this.

10-27-2020, 04:56 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by K Major** Papz, I totally get it on the players though. If one player regresses, the blame likely falls on the player. If the whole unit regresses, it points toward coaching. I agree. The coaching has been awlful. Just pointing out it doesn't have to be one or the other.

10-27-2020, 02:53 PM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like **** I heard deuce mc commit on I believe it’s Marcus Williams that it’s time to pull that dude he can’t correct his play it’s time to move on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-27-2020, 03:27 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by st thomas** I heard deuce mc commit on I believe it’s Marcus Williams that it’s time to pull that dude he can’t correct his play it’s time to move on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Deuce, Hebert and even Swilling "hinted" at it. His blunders are starting to be called out by guys who have played the game. Tackling, coverage lapses you name it. Try MJ or Swearinger at Free Safety if you don't plan on making a trade before the deadline. You can't continue to hold Marcus Williams hand forever. WW_Who_Dat and rezburna like this.

10-27-2020, 04:44 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,096	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like **** I honestly don’t know why Earl Thomas isn’t here. The Saints want to run the Cover 1/Cover 3 style defense that Seattle ran but with more emphasis on Cover 1...so why not go get the guy that’s used to it? That’s his specialty. He can handle the center fielder style of play.

10-28-2020, 03:52 PM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like **** Is it Dennis Allen or Aaron Glenn... or both. Swapping the d-coordinator mid season is troublesome, since the defense isn't bottom of the league. Maybe a new secondary coach could be a wake-up call even if Glenn's not the reason for the bad secondary performance. st thomas likes this.

10-31-2020, 12:35 PM	#9
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by FinSaint** Is it Dennis Allen or Aaron Glenn... or both. Swapping the d-coordinator mid season is troublesome, since the defense isn't bottom of the league. Maybe a new secondary coach could be a wake-up call even if Glenn's not the reason for the bad secondary performance. It’s both , does anyone see this defense can completely turn this around into a super bowl de. I really was giving them to the midpoint to (get it ) it’s looking grim Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-31-2020, 01:03 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like **** The offense is slowly getting better each week. However, the defense gets worse each week....I will admit that Davenport helped the front seven but the back end still needs help desperately.