Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ****

rezburna · 10-27-2020, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Rez I agree that our run defense is doing the job game in game out. What in your opinion is causing the problems in the secondary, is it the Safety play, Williams seems to be out of position most of the time and bites on dropping down to mid level out route coverage allowing the center of the field to be wide open. Malcom Jenkins makes some flash plays but he has been weak covering TE’s exactly what he was brought in to improve.

I just don’t get all the broken coverages, DA dropping defensive linemen in to secondary coverages .... what is going on in your opinion?

Seems like scheme to me. At his age, Jenkins is better playing close to the line of scrimmage like a LB’er. Blitzing...covering backs out of the backfield...spying the QB. Go Nickel. Take Anzalone off the field. Put Jenkins where Anzalone is. Drop CJ back at SS. Put Patrick Robinson in the slot. Go 2 man under with Lattimore trailing the best receiver. 2 man and cover 2 are the same shell, so mix that in too with Jenkins dropping back into the middle of the field instead of a linebacker. It’s overcomplicated if you ask me.

The Dude · 10-28-2020, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Seems like scheme to me. At his age, Jenkins is better playing close to the line of scrimmage like a LB’er. Blitzing...covering backs out of the backfield...spying the QB. Go Nickel. Take Anzalone off the field. Put Jenkins where Anzalone is. Drop CJ back at SS. Put Patrick Robinson in the slot. Go 2 man under with Lattimore trailing the best receiver. 2 man and cover 2 are the same shell, so mix that in too with Jenkins dropping back into the middle of the field instead of a linebacker. It’s overcomplicated if you ask me.

If it’s too complicated then isn’t it’s the coaches job to simplify things? Over complicated is a word that has been thrown around fairly consistently over DA’s tenure as DC. This is coming from players and fans so there must be some truth to it. Back when we didn’t have many talented players in the secondary they were forced to complicate things because our players skill sets were inferior to most other teams offenses. We had to rely on scheme more than physical ability. We now have above average talent all around our secondary. Is there any need for over complication anymore? More about matchups and less about trickery?
Or am I off base here?

10-27-2020, 12:10 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,122	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat** Rez I agree that our run defense is doing the job game in game out. What in your opinion is causing the problems in the secondary, is it the Safety play, Williams seems to be out of position most of the time and bites on dropping down to mid level out route coverage allowing the center of the field to be wide open. Malcom Jenkins makes some flash plays but he has been weak covering TE’s exactly what he was brought in to improve. I just don’t get all the broken coverages, DA dropping defensive linemen in to secondary coverages .... what is going on in your opinion? Seems like scheme to me. At his age, Jenkins is better playing close to the line of scrimmage like a LB’er. Blitzing...covering backs out of the backfield...spying the QB. Go Nickel. Take Anzalone off the field. Put Jenkins where Anzalone is. Drop CJ back at SS. Put Patrick Robinson in the slot. Go 2 man under with Lattimore trailing the best receiver. 2 man and cover 2 are the same shell, so mix that in too with Jenkins dropping back into the middle of the field instead of a linebacker. It’s overcomplicated if you ask me. WW_Who_Dat and K Major like this.
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10-28-2020, 12:43 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Offense looks great even without star receivers, the Defense looks like ** Originally Posted by rezburna** Seems like scheme to me. At his age, Jenkins is better playing close to the line of scrimmage like a LB’er. Blitzing...covering backs out of the backfield...spying the QB. Go Nickel. Take Anzalone off the field. Put Jenkins where Anzalone is. Drop CJ back at SS. Put Patrick Robinson in the slot. Go 2 man under with Lattimore trailing the best receiver. 2 man and cover 2 are the same shell, so mix that in too with Jenkins dropping back into the middle of the field instead of a linebacker. It’s overcomplicated if you ask me. If it’s too complicated then isn’t it’s the coaches job to simplify things? Over complicated is a word that has been thrown around fairly consistently over DA’s tenure as DC. This is coming from players and fans so there must be some truth to it. Back when we didn’t have many talented players in the secondary they were forced to complicate things because our players skill sets were inferior to most other teams offenses. We had to rely on scheme more than physical ability. We now have above average talent all around our secondary. Is there any need for over complication anymore? More about matchups and less about trickery? Or am I off base here?
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