Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles

Boston Saint · 12-25-2020, 07:38 PM

Gardner hits like a LB at times.

papz · 12-28-2020, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Gardner hits like a LB at times.

I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there.

I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2020, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there.

I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats.

Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

K Major · 12-28-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

Exactly.

Saints need to find a capable back up in case Alex goes down as we enter post season. I love Craig R but he's too slow and nothing more than a special teamer at this point of his career.

Demario won't be able to roam now that Kwon is out.

AsylumGuido · 12-28-2020, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2020, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments.

Would you trust him?

AsylumGuido · 12-28-2020, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments.

Would you trust him?

I'm not a part of that tight brotherhood of a team. As far as I know neither are you. I can't get inside any of their minds to declare that they do not trust him.

As far as I can remember pretty much every defensive player on our team has missed an assignment here or there. Everyone one of them have missed a tackle. Every one of them that had coverage duties has been burned on routes.

As a player you HAVE to trust your teammates. It's easy for a fan to lose that trust. Players, however, are not fans. They do not have your thought process.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2020, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm not a part of that tight brotherhood of a team. As far as I know neither are you. I can't get inside any of their minds to declare that they do not trust him.

As far as I can remember pretty much every defensive player on our team has missed an assignment here or there. Everyone one of them have missed a tackle. Every one of them that had coverage duties has been burned on routes.

As a player you HAVE to trust your teammates. It's easy for a fan to lose that trust. Players, however, are not fans. They do not have your thought process.

Guido, "missed an assignment here or there" does not accurately describe Anzalone's play on the field and you know it. My point is a player who can't play well enough becomes a guy you can't trust on the field.

The fact he was phased out and replaced is enough for us to at least infer that coaches couldn't trust him.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by Boston Saint Gardner hits like a LB at times. I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there. I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats. Boston Saint likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by papz I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there. I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats. Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him. turbo_dog, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,853 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him. Exactly. Saints need to find a capable back up in case Alex goes down as we enter post season. I love Craig R but he's too slow and nothing more than a special teamer at this point of his career. Demario won't be able to roam now that Kwon is out. jeanpierre likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,804	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him. And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL). Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments. Would you trust him? K Major likes this.

12-28-2020, 05:21 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,804	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments. Would you trust him? I'm not a part of that tight brotherhood of a team. As far as I know neither are you. I can't get inside any of their minds to declare that they do not trust him. As far as I can remember pretty much every defensive player on our team has missed an assignment here or there. Everyone one of them have missed a tackle. Every one of them that had coverage duties has been burned on routes. As a player you HAVE to trust your teammates. It's easy for a fan to lose that trust. Players, however, are not fans. They do not have your thought process.
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12-28-2020, 08:51 PM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm not a part of that tight brotherhood of a team. As far as I know neither are you. I can't get inside any of their minds to declare that they do not trust him. As far as I can remember pretty much every defensive player on our team has missed an assignment here or there. Everyone one of them have missed a tackle. Every one of them that had coverage duties has been burned on routes. As a player you HAVE to trust your teammates. It's easy for a fan to lose that trust. Players, however, are not fans. They do not have your thought process. Guido, "missed an assignment here or there" does not accurately describe Anzalone's play on the field and you know it. My point is a player who can't play well enough becomes a guy you can't trust on the field. The fact he was phased out and replaced is enough for us to at least infer that coaches couldn't trust him. jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.