You know,

saintfan · 11-21-2011, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about

And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period.

Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough?

saintfan · 11-21-2011, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

I am still wondering what I am suppose to see differently in the videos that were posted. Here is what I DID see, the Oline get beat at the point of attack, not able to push off blocks and hit the next level(especially on draw plays where down field blocking is crucial.) once the back gets to the line of scrimmage he is hit by 3 defenders and has to churn forward to make any yards. But let's not blame just the Oline, we have backs who apparently lack vision. There were many plays where the RB could have cut back for a huge gain, but choose to drop his head in a pile of defenders for minimal yardage. From top to bottom we lack a consistent running game. But hey what do I know, I'm just a fan.

Don't sweat it mighty12. This fool has to save face. He will defend his position even when reality smacks him upside his head.

CharityMike · 11-21-2011, 05:55 PM

I am confused...did somebody say something about boobs

strato · 11-21-2011, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

alright then heres what you should be looking for because apparently even when i post videos of the line doing its job you still dont know what you're seeing.......

the lines job is not to blow ppl off the ball. the lines job is to make contact with the defenders and keep them off the ball carrier. they dont have to push a guy backwards to do that. most of the time all they have to do is turn their seats and create an alley for the running back to run through

running plays are not designed to get 10 yards. they are designed to get 3 to 5 yards because you cant possibly block everybody on one play. what you see in these videos is a lot of 3 to 4 yard gains in which we use carl nicks' elite skills to pop off successful runs

nicks is seen often in these videos reaching for linebackers and pulling to the inside of the right side of the line in order to give the running back a big lead blocker to follow

in only a handful of runs in those videos do the backs actually get stuffed and very few if any do the backs get caught behind the line

linemen are not going to push 350lb defensive linemen backwards....what they are going to do is catch them before they make a move and turn their seat so they can create a seam for the backs to get through

no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about

Canton ..if we don't know what were talking about ..WHY do you come here?...this is getting ridiculous your little I am smarter than all outburst..

Please if your going to insult everyone's intelligence ..do the smart thing and do it somewhere else..

Your act is wearing thin here...REAL THIN!

Peace

subguy · 11-21-2011, 06:32 PM

I was getting ready to say from the looks of it that my post in the 2nd page of this thread is only post that exudes real football knowledge

CantonLegend · 11-21-2011, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period.

Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough?

I posted videos of the line doing very well and you still think they are videos of them doing poorly. You don't know what ur talking about because you don't know what ur watching

It's baffling and the iq level here continues to drop because of posts like urs and a few others. I'd love to talk with some ppl that can have an intelligent football conversation but it's apparently not going to happen

What is in those videos specifically that shows the line playing poorly? Please explain. I'd love to hear you teach me something about the line's job that I don't know better than you

|Mitch| · 11-21-2011, 09:32 PM

Canton; come on, man!

You say you want intelligent conversation, but I see you criticizing and pretty much calling other members idiots in just about every thread you post in...

I'd like to read and understand your football "knowledge", but hard to get through all the other "nonsense"...

CantonLegend · 11-21-2011, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Canton; come on, man!

You say you want intelligent conversation, but I see you criticizing and pretty much calling other members idiots in just about every thread you post in...

I'd like to read and understand your football "knowledge", but hard to get through all the other "nonsense"...

I didnt try and start anything in this thread. What I did do was give a great reason why I call ppl out so much. There are ppl criticizing videos that are basically highlight videos

It's hard to even talk to ppl that are so blindly negative that they can't even watch a video of highlights and accept they are playing well

Fwiw the videos are just a collection of runs out of different packages...they aren't really highlight videos but they might as well be

|Mitch| · 11-21-2011, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

I didnt try and start anything in this thread.

I dunno man, your first post in this thread looks to me you go after Strato right off the bat... My opinion though and it doesn't matter too much

CantonLegend · 11-21-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I dunno man, your first post in this thread looks to me you go after Strato right off the bat... My opinion though and it doesn't matter too much

My post wasn't even directed at strato

I called Marlboro man a Monday morning qb because he was trying to base the thread on hindsight which everybody knows is just facetious.

I also went on to post some pretty convincing stats to back up all my arguments...then some videos since some ppl say stats aren't enough

What else can you ask for? It kinda just seems like a lot of whining from few posters if you ask me

Just my opinion too...it doesn't mean much either

11-21-2011, 04:44 PM	#51
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CantonLegend no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period. Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough? iceshack149 and foreverfan like this.
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11-21-2011, 04:46 PM	#52
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by mighty12 I am still wondering what I am suppose to see differently in the videos that were posted. Here is what I DID see, the Oline get beat at the point of attack, not able to push off blocks and hit the next level(especially on draw plays where down field blocking is crucial.) once the back gets to the line of scrimmage he is hit by 3 defenders and has to churn forward to make any yards. But let's not blame just the Oline, we have backs who apparently lack vision. There were many plays where the RB could have cut back for a huge gain, but choose to drop his head in a pile of defenders for minimal yardage. From top to bottom we lack a consistent running game. But hey what do I know, I'm just a fan. Don't sweat it mighty12. This fool has to save face. He will defend his position even when reality smacks him upside his head.

11-21-2011, 05:55 PM	#53
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	I am confused...did somebody say something about boobs saintfan and foreverfan like this.

11-21-2011, 06:05 PM	#54
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by CantonLegend alright then heres what you should be looking for because apparently even when i post videos of the line doing its job you still dont know what you're seeing....... the lines job is not to blow ppl off the ball. the lines job is to make contact with the defenders and keep them off the ball carrier. they dont have to push a guy backwards to do that. most of the time all they have to do is turn their seats and create an alley for the running back to run through running plays are not designed to get 10 yards. they are designed to get 3 to 5 yards because you cant possibly block everybody on one play. what you see in these videos is a lot of 3 to 4 yard gains in which we use carl nicks' elite skills to pop off successful runs nicks is seen often in these videos reaching for linebackers and pulling to the inside of the right side of the line in order to give the running back a big lead blocker to follow in only a handful of runs in those videos do the backs actually get stuffed and very few if any do the backs get caught behind the line linemen are not going to push 350lb defensive linemen backwards....what they are going to do is catch them before they make a move and turn their seat so they can create a seam for the backs to get through no wonder ppl complain so much about the line....this is why i say you guys dont know what you're talking about Canton ..if we don't know what were talking about ..WHY do you come here?...this is getting ridiculous your little I am smarter than all outburst.. Please if your going to insult everyone's intelligence ..do the smart thing and do it somewhere else.. Your act is wearing thin here...REAL THIN! Peace

11-21-2011, 06:32 PM	#55
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11-21-2011, 09:24 PM	#56
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintfan And this is why you aren't very well received here. You don't know a damn thing more about it than anybody else. You're a wannabe. Period. Are you here to educate us with all your high school football knowledge? Or are you just here to start ****? You really think people expect 40 yards every touch? Really? Well then why don't you go back under whichever rock you popped out from...go back to that place where everyone treats you like the o-line rock star you make yourself out to be, because with your attitude things aren't going to get any friendlier for you here? PLEASE. Is please enough? I posted videos of the line doing very well and you still think they are videos of them doing poorly. You don't know what ur talking about because you don't know what ur watching It's baffling and the iq level here continues to drop because of posts like urs and a few others. I'd love to talk with some ppl that can have an intelligent football conversation but it's apparently not going to happen What is in those videos specifically that shows the line playing poorly? Please explain. I'd love to hear you teach me something about the line's job that I don't know better than you
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11-21-2011, 09:32 PM	#57
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Canton; come on, man! You say you want intelligent conversation, but I see you criticizing and pretty much calling other members idiots in just about every thread you post in... I'd like to read and understand your football "knowledge", but hard to get through all the other "nonsense"...

11-21-2011, 09:43 PM	#58
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Canton; come on, man! You say you want intelligent conversation, but I see you criticizing and pretty much calling other members idiots in just about every thread you post in... I'd like to read and understand your football "knowledge", but hard to get through all the other "nonsense"... I didnt try and start anything in this thread. What I did do was give a great reason why I call ppl out so much. There are ppl criticizing videos that are basically highlight videos It's hard to even talk to ppl that are so blindly negative that they can't even watch a video of highlights and accept they are playing well Fwiw the videos are just a collection of runs out of different packages...they aren't really highlight videos but they might as well be

11-21-2011, 10:07 PM	#59
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by CantonLegend I didnt try and start anything in this thread. I dunno man, your first post in this thread looks to me you go after Strato right off the bat... My opinion though and it doesn't matter too much

11-21-2011, 10:15 PM	#60
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I dunno man, your first post in this thread looks to me you go after Strato right off the bat... My opinion though and it doesn't matter too much My post wasn't even directed at strato I called Marlboro man a Monday morning qb because he was trying to base the thread on hindsight which everybody knows is just facetious. I also went on to post some pretty convincing stats to back up all my arguments...then some videos since some ppl say stats aren't enough What else can you ask for? It kinda just seems like a lot of whining from few posters if you ask me Just my opinion too...it doesn't mean much either

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