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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by nola_swammi Why trade him when they could've got a 1st and at least fifth rd pick last year? Because a season passed. A season where due to injury for the second consecutive year simply did not have ...

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Old 03-10-2015, 07:43 PM   #211
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
Why trade him when they could've got a 1st and at least fifth rd pick last year?
Because a season passed. A season where due to injury for the second consecutive year simply did not have the production that matched the top of the line contract.
Now trade him for a 1st that might as well be a second rd pick and trade a 4th rd pick for a oft injured player when we have Tim Lelito on the roster has me puzzled. It didn't solve the cap, its not a definite answer at center and its not really a 1st rd pick when you're only 2 draft picks away from the second.
It gives the team options for packaging up for 10 top talent or trading down for more picks.
I AM PRAYING WE DRAFT BETTER THAN LAST YEAR OR WE WILL BE SAYING BYE TO THE BEST COACH THE SAINTS EVER HAD
I'm in definite agreement with that.

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Old 03-10-2015, 07:48 PM   #212
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Originally Posted by arsaint View Post
The question that will be answered is how much of JG's production was JG's talent and how much of it stemmed from Sean's offense and Brees' HOF career...
Answer clear, no way we win a Superbowl without Graham.
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:57 PM   #213
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Played all 16 games last six years
3 x Pro Bowler
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and the Ed Block courage award (HHAHAHAH Could have fooled me LOL)

With our pedestrian wide receiver group dis mek mi hoppy....
So now you are going to tell me what has Jimmy done, ok.

That Jimmy has only played 5 years in the NFL and he has missed games notwithstanding... actually, never mind. You'll find out soon enough.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:27 PM   #214
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Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

I trust Peyton's judgment, but it is hard to believe they couldn't get more than a center whose health is suspect, and a 2 1/2 round improvement for one pick.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:39 PM   #215
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If Unger comes in and stabilizes the Oline it will do more to improve this team than keeping JG. Not playing down Jimmy's value or talent but giving Drew protection will go a lot further than one receiver.

That's if with a capital I though.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:44 PM   #216
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Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

I posted this in the Max Unger thread, but I'll post it here as well... From Pro Football Focus:

Saints: Balanced Unger solidifies center spot
Ben Stockwell | March 10, 2015



There may be some consternation about the Saints giving up Jimmy Graham in this trade but they have at least acquired one of the league’s premier centers and upgraded a fourth round pick to a first round pick with it. Though fans won’t be swooning over Max Unger’s play-making ability, he ties down the center of the Saints’ line with a quality blocker in both the run and pass games.

This season injuries limited Unger to 385 snaps in the regular season but some punishing and consistent run blocking in those limited snaps ensured he finished as our No. 4 ranked center. Only twice in his nine starts last season did Unger grade below zero and he graded above +1.0 in six of those games. But for injury this season looked like being a match for Unger’s 2012 season where he earned a +31.1 overall grade, built around his run blocking where he never earned a run block grade below -1.0 all season long.

The loss of Graham will be felt in New Orleans and the Saints will need plans in place to replace him, but their offense has always been at its strongest when it has balance, and that balance is centered on their offensive line. With Jahri Evans starting to decline the Saints have moved to lock down their interior offensive line with the acquisition of Unger and having re-signed Mark Ingram we may yet see a re-emphasis of the running game in New Orleans this season.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:48 PM   #217
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
We'd have to get no less than a second and a fourth...or a first rounder for a former first rounder who's validated with a ProBowl...

I'd trade him for either of those offers...
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:52 PM   #218
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I hope that there are a lot of 6'8" power forwards at the end of the draft.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:11 PM   #219
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On the whole, I'm glad we did this. This is the "get your sh*t together" move Saints fans have been waiting for since the Cowboys game last season. Taking away Brees and Payton's favorite toy like this - it's a rubicon of sorts. Big time wake-up call for the team. And I bet it helps it out financially at least long-term.

How the trade works out remains to be seen based on (A) Unger's health, (B) what the Saints do with the late 1st round pick and (C) if Seattle can integrate Graham as a WR/TE into a very different style of offense than the Saints had.

And finally, good luck to Jimmy. Nothing personal with him but the team dynamic was going to crap. Some of it Jimmy's fault and a good part of it the fault of others. We really needed to go in a different direction.

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Old 03-10-2015, 09:14 PM   #220
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I hope that there are a lot of 6'8" power forwards at the end of the draft.
Tony Gonzalez. Antonio Gates. Jimmy Graham. There will be more over time, just depends on which teams hit the jackpot.
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