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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; But anyway I think if we win one of the first two games we will get the taste of losing early out of our mouths and have steam to build on moving forward. Starting strong for this team this year ...

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Old 06-21-2017, 04:50 PM   #101
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But anyway I think if we win one of the first two games we will get the taste of losing early out of our mouths and have steam to build on moving forward. Starting strong for this team this year is key, more than ever. We don't want a Groundhog Day feeling in the locker room.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:47 PM   #102
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I have not seen anyone, anywhere, post anything about being able to change the outcome of what would happen god forbid we have another losing season.
I think this is something you are making up in your head and perceiving as reality. We are talking about what we would want to happen. Again we aren't talking about passing out petitions or calling Benson and the governor demanding change.
Wrong, Dude. spkb25 claimed on multiple occasions that he does and we should look at past failures to make sure things are done better in the future. That was his explanation for constantly dwelling on negative aspects of the franchises recent past. I can take some time and link every thread where he made that argument if you wish.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:48 PM   #103
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But anyway I think if we win one of the first two games we will get the taste of losing early out of our mouths and have steam to build on moving forward. Starting strong for this team this year is key, more than ever. We don't want a Groundhog Day feeling in the locker room.
I would be shocked if we don't win the opener at Minny.
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:31 PM   #104
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I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?"

In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013.

The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons.

I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures.

No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected.

You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre.
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:04 PM   #105
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I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?"

In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013.

The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons.

I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures.

No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected.

You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre.
So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:22 PM   #106
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So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?
I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:12 PM   #107
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.
And that's what it is all about. You churn 3 straight 7-9 seasons, 4 of the last 5 seasons, you're on your third d coord and set a record for dead money. You don't brush that away as if it doesn't exist, didn't exist, etc. If we were making good moves those things would not have happened.

If as a fan you choose to pump sunshine and rainbows I don't have a problem with it. I think when it becomes an issue is when you go around attacking the other members of the board for talking about facts and why they're hesitant to get sucked in again and not really look at who this team is, etc. Pump sunshine all day if it tickles your fancy, but leave those with a critical view of the team to share their thoughts without being bothered.
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:44 PM   #108
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So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?
Now your just putting words in peoples mouths .

Since you are so hung up on fact checking please show me how you arrived at that conclusion. Show us the quote of him saying that. Really I want to see your translation of what you think he said. What would lead you to believe that he because he values the past he must think we are going to have the same record.
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:42 PM   #109
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.
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And that's what it is all about. You churn 3 straight 7-9 seasons, 4 of the last 5 seasons, you're on your third d coord and set a record for dead money. You don't brush that away as if it doesn't exist, didn't exist, etc. If we were making good moves those things would not have happened.

If as a fan you choose to pump sunshine and rainbows I don't have a problem with it. I think when it becomes an issue is when you go around attacking the other members of the board for talking about facts and why they're hesitant to get sucked in again and not really look at who this team is, etc. Pump sunshine all day if it tickles your fancy, but leave those with a critical view of the team to share their thoughts without being bothered.
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Now your just putting words in peoples mouths .

Since you are so hung up on fact checking please show me how you arrived at that conclusion. Show us the quote of him saying that. Really I want to see your translation of what you think he said. What would lead you to believe that he because he values the past he must think we are going to have the same record.


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Old 06-21-2017, 09:54 PM   #110
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.

I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie.
One thing I can say for sure is I specifically remember the dude and dizzle still on the board last year during the losing. We stuck with the team through the entire year, ups and downs!
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