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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by FinSaint Asomugha? Who wouldn't want to add him to their roster, you'd have to crazy not to want him! I don't think it's a matter of if a team - i.e. the Saints - wants him or ...

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:04 AM   #1
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Asomugha?

Who wouldn't want to add him to their roster, you'd have to crazy not to want him!


I don't think it's a matter of if a team - i.e. the Saints - wants him or not, but rather if they can negotiate a contract with such a player that'll tilt the odds in favor of the team coming on top in the investment vs return equation.
Get past the brand name, watch the tape.

"All Kelly could say about Asomugha was, “I don’t have his group of plays, or how he played in Game 1 through the last game of the season,” then after more questions, “I think Nnamdi has the skill set (pause) that can play football.”
We all know that the former Oakland Raiders cornerback played horribly in 2012. He can no longer run with the faster receivers in the league, his quickness and change of direction are subpar and he seems indecisive when he comes up into the press technique, which used to be his strength. Bottomline, he’s no where near worth the the $15 million dollars they slated to pay him now."


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Get past the brand name, watch the tape.

"All Kelly could say about Asomugha was, “I don’t have his group of plays, or how he played in Game 1 through the last game of the season,” then after more questions, “I think Nnamdi has the skill set (pause) that can play football.”
We all know that the former Oakland Raiders cornerback played horribly in 2012. He can no longer run with the faster receivers in the league, his quickness and change of direction are subpar and he seems indecisive when he comes up into the press technique, which used to be his strength. Bottomline, he’s no where near worth the the $15 million dollars they slated to pay him now."


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Yeah, but that's all relative...

he’s no where near worth the the $15 million dollars they slated to pay him now

None of his suitors at present are looking at his skill set and planning to pay him $15M/yr, but at $4-5M/yr his skill set suddenly looks a lot better.
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pass we need to get more than one player for the money he will want
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pass we need to get more than one player for the money he will want
No one even knows how much money he's asking for if he's already still going to get paid 4mil this season from the Eagles.
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And it wasn't just Asomugha who underachieved and overpaid on that roster, lots of players underperformed. DRC, Cullen Jenkins, Jason Babin, Trent Cole, etc. Not take to make excuses for those guys, but I'm sure the coaching and locker room played a part in all of them failing miserably. I'm sure a scouting report on a majority of their players on defense last year wouldn't be too favorable.

At a discounted rate, while there still would be plenty of risk involved, it could certainly be very worthwhile to kick the tires on a possible deal.
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True. What if the asking price is 2 million? Added on with the money the Eagles are paying him, that's still more than what DRC got from Denver and on average from what KC is playing Sean Smith. It's also still more than what we gave Lewis. He gets to re-unite with his former DC on a contending team... that could lead to nice multi year deal the upcoming offseason.
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True. What if the asking price is 2 million? Added on with the money the Eagles are paying him, that's still more than what DRC got from Denver and on average from what KC is playing Sean Smith. It's also still more than what we gave Lewis. He gets to re-unite with his former DC on a contending team... that could lead to nice multi year deal the upcoming offseason.

True, a 1-year contract like the one you proposed could be really good for him financially, since the market was/is flooded with quality CBs this offseason his market value wasn't/isn't as high as it could be f.e. next offseason.
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True, a 1-year contract like the one you proposed could be really good for him financially, since the market was/is flooded with quality CBs this offseason his market value wasn't/isn't as high as it could be f.e. next offseason.
He wants more than $4M.

Ill put his 2012 performance into perspective for you.

Patrick Robinson - 18 passes defended.
Nnamdi - 12 passes defended.....
2012 NFL Player Defense Stats - National Football League - ESPN

2011
Greer - 18
Nnamdi - 5



Look at his stats... Help me understand why he is so stellar in so many peoples eyes. if he is not an upgrade to Patrick Robinson why do we want him?

A cornerback is measured on the following correct?

Passes Defended
Interceptions
Possibly sacks?

Nnamdi Asomugha Stats - ESPN
Patrick Robinson Stats - New Orleans Saints - ESPN


2012 CB rankings
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics
Greer and Robinson rank higher

2011 CB rankings
Porter, Robinson and Greer ranked higher
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics

2010 CB rankings

Nnamdi doesn't even make the list but played 14 games
Porter and greer both on the list
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics

2009 CB Rankings
Greer and Porter above him again
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics

I must be missing something. For a first round draft pick his play seems underwhelming.

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Just got very interesting tho......

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