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Old 02-11-2014, 02:00 PM   #1
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Re: Michael Sam comes out, An openly gay player very likely to be drafted

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:58 AM   #2
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Just jumping in here and I have read the posts, the guy is gay. He said. No future shock or story for any team that should take him. No scandal. He took all of that away. No money story.

Lots of people have gay cowokers, family, friends, neighbors, etc.
God created these people as they are.

I do not think any NFL fan or team cares if he is hired as long as he can play.
The NFL , of all places, cannot for pr reasons , cannot be critical of the guy because he has not raped, killed, had DUI, dog fights, baby mama drama and more. he is gay. Whether or not he is drafted or can be in the NFL all depends if he can play ball.
Opposite situation, Tim Tebow. Many still want to say poor Timmy Tebow was taken out of the NFL by Liberals and Devils and goodness knows what because he was CHRISTIAN.
No, he had no team wanting him and wanting him as starting qb because he was simply not that good. Period.
The Late Reggie White was Christian and talked his beliefs. Russell Wilson is Christian and talks up his beliefs. Many others.
I think it ok to assume the Mannings have strong Christian beliefs. They do not talk it up . Oh, they can play that football.

All people care about is if the guy can play football.

Mr. Cathy of CFA. This is really BS ..."Oh , he does not want gay people at his places or hire gay people or have gay franchise owners....
That story. He has his beliefs and can have them as we all can.
He can and cannot award a CFA, his business, to people who share his beliefs or who are straight. What do you think, he has them pledge under oath or something? LOL!! Sign stuff like that? You cannot do that.
There are US Civil Rights that trump him.
How would he know if they are gay or straight?
Are they selling gay sandwiches? Are they selling gay propaganda? Gay flags? Have gay family night?
No. No. No.
If someone meets all the finanical means, background checks, etc. to buy a CFA franchise, I am sure they can get one.
Mr. Cathy cannot ask anyone to pledge to be anti-gay or ask if they are gay. No CFA applications for the cashier to the fries guy to the manager asks people if they are gay. Support gay rights? Belong to a Christian Chruch, preferably Protestant? Etc.

Ones' personal life is just that and has nothing to do with the work place whatever you are.
Ones' personal life is personal and should be kept personal whether you are gay or straight.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:03 PM   #3
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All people care about is if the guy can play football.
If this were true, this wouldn't be a story. He'd be a projected mid round pick as are a couple hundred other guys.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:37 PM   #4
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All that should matter is if he can pound the guy in front of him or squirt through that line.

Really if you think about it... only 10% of gays are the wrong sex trapped in the wrong body. The rest.... got sucked into it.
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Micheal Sam makes my point for me at the combine:

“I just wish you guys would just see me as Michael Sam the football player instead of Michael Sam the gay football player,” he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/sp...ield.html?_r=0

If you want to be seen as Sam the football player, don't go out of your way to make sure you are seen as a hyphenated-Sam the football player.

I am somewhat curious about his most recent statement, to me it comes off as a reversal to his previous statement. He went out of his way to be seen as someone that is making sure he is seen as a gay football player but now he doesn't care for that image.

I am also curious about the G/L/T community supporting a Corporation that makes zero attempt to embrace its community or support it. From what I have been told and read, the absence of translates to being against.

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And back to football... wasn't overly impressed with Sam's combine showing.
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And back to football... wasn't overly impressed with Sam's combine showing.
17 reps puts him second lowest on the bench press
25" puts him around second to lowest Vert Jump

6'2" 261 puts him on the short and light side in comparison.

So he is shorter, lighter, weaker, and has average speed and quickness.
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17 reps puts him second lowest on the bench press
25" puts him around second to lowest Vert Jump

6'2" 261 puts him on the short and light side in comparison.

So he is shorter, lighter, weaker, and has average speed and quickness.
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I was expecting to see better numbers from the Co-MVP on defense of the mighty SEC.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:29 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
I was expecting to see better numbers from the Co-MVP on defense of the mighty SEC.
I am a little surprised to see his stats. His play last season was stellar. I wonder if he might be this years Vontaze Burfict.



Scott Fujita wrote an quite interesting piece on all of this too.
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I was expecting to see better numbers from the Co-MVP on defense of the mighty SEC.
Jarvis Jones put up similarly unimpressive numbers too.

Its odd, the SEC sack leader has rarely been successful in the NFL, and I have no earthly freakin' idea of why that is.
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