Michael Sam comes out, An openly gay player very likely to be drafted

TheOak · 02-11-2014, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

To the people saying basically - he should shut up about it because it's irrelevant:

I truly look forward to the day when this isn't even a discussion anymore.

Chase your self around the chair much?

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

If it's so irrelevant then why do you care?

Many relevant discussions have been had about irrelevant actions.

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

Um, why is Tom Brady broadcasting his straightness when he shows up at public events with Gisele? Whenever a straight football player gets married or shows up at public events with his spouse he is automatically broadcasting to the world that he's straight.

It's a double standard to say in one breath it's fine and acceptable for straight football players to broadcast their straightness, and then turn around and say, "Hey why did this gay person come out? We don't need that broadcasted. We didn't need to know that."

I know quite a few gay men and hetero females that would debate you on Tom Brady being straight. Marriage to the opposite sex is not a litmus test for being gay or straight. As far as for broadcasting it, standing in front of a podium with reporters is broadcasting. Showing up with your significant other is not.

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

It's automatically assumed that somehow when a person says they're gay, they're saying what they like to do in the bedroom, and we don't need to know that.

Yes it is assumed because that is the text book definition of homosexuality.
Merriam Webster: Homosexual ~ sexually attracted to people of the same sex.
Unless what you are implying that he was letting the world know he is "happy"?

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

As for me, I could not possibly be prouder of Michael Sam. It takes some brass to come out before the draft and to be "the first one". He's just a mid-rounder and this could easily affect his stock. It's likely someone will pick him up, but he'll probably fall a couple rounds below where he would have gone.

His draft stock has already fallen and it is not because he is gay. Head coaches want to win. Coaches like Sean Payton and Bill Belichick do not care what his sexual orientation is. They could care less, they just want to win. They also want players that know that winning isn't about them, it is about the team. Sam basically just stood up and said 'what is important right now is me'. Teo' caused a lot of drama before the draft, it hurt him. Getting arrested or getting a DWI before the draft hurts players also.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,058	Re: Michael Sam comes out, An openly gay player very likely to be drafted Originally Posted by ClintSaints To the people saying basically - he should shut up about it because it's irrelevant: I truly look forward to the day when this isn't even a discussion anymore. Chase your self around the chair much? Originally Posted by ClintSaints If it's so irrelevant then why do you care? Many relevant discussions have been had about irrelevant actions. Originally Posted by ClintSaints Um, why is Tom Brady broadcasting his straightness when he shows up at public events with Gisele? Whenever a straight football player gets married or shows up at public events with his spouse he is automatically broadcasting to the world that he's straight. It's a double standard to say in one breath it's fine and acceptable for straight football players to broadcast their straightness, and then turn around and say, "Hey why did this gay person come out? We don't need that broadcasted. We didn't need to know that." I know quite a few gay men and hetero females that would debate you on Tom Brady being straight. Marriage to the opposite sex is not a litmus test for being gay or straight. As far as for broadcasting it, standing in front of a podium with reporters is broadcasting. Showing up with your significant other is not. Originally Posted by ClintSaints It's automatically assumed that somehow when a person says they're gay, they're saying what they like to do in the bedroom, and we don't need to know that. Yes it is assumed because that is the text book definition of homosexuality. Merriam Webster: Homosexual ~ sexually attracted to people of the same sex. Unless what you are implying that he was letting the world know he is "happy"? Originally Posted by ClintSaints As for me, I could not possibly be prouder of Michael Sam. It takes some brass to come out before the draft and to be "the first one". He's just a mid-rounder and this could easily affect his stock. It's likely someone will pick him up, but he'll probably fall a couple rounds below where he would have gone. His draft stock has already fallen and it is not because he is gay. Head coaches want to win. Coaches like Sean Payton and Bill Belichick do not care what his sexual orientation is. They could care less, they just want to win. They also want players that know that winning isn't about them, it is about the team. Sam basically just stood up and said 'what is important right now is me'. Teo' caused a lot of drama before the draft, it hurt him. Getting arrested or getting a DWI before the draft hurts players also.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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