You. Are. Psychotic.

You guys go round and round pickering about trivial things like little children causing all sorts of negativity on these boards.

I'm tempted to block the both of you, but you both acutually post something meaningful and unrelated to your personal feud every now and then, so I'd like to avoid doing that.

While I don't agree with AG on a lot of things - I have admit he has a point here that you JP have claimed numerous times on multiple threads that SP avoids drafting players from LSU while the statistics clearly do not support that claim (15 or 20 year span), so you could just admit your bias and the both of you could move on from this subject.

You guys go round and round pickering about trivial things like little children causing all sorts of negativity on these boards.

I'm tempted to block the both of you, but you both acutually post something meaningful and unrelated to your personal feud every now and then, so I'd like to avoid doing that.

While I don't agree with AG on a lot of things - I have admit he has a point here that you JP have claimed numerous times on multiple threads that SP avoids drafting players from LSU while the statistics clearly do not support that claim (15 or 20 year span), so you could just admit your bias and the both of you could move on from this subject.

Do what you must, #Block away!

You two could do us all a favor and continue your quarrel through direct messages, and you can hashtag that as well.

You two could do us all a favor and continue your quarrel through direct messages, and you can hashtag that as well.

No, the Saints' LSU draft picks, or lack there of, have almost no affect on the overall percentages. I will repost these numbers ...

1.) There are 778 colleges and universities in the United States with football programs according to footballfoundation.org as of June 28, 2018.

2.) Over the past twenty years those 778 sources have provided approximately 5,120 players to the NFL via the draft (20 years times 256 players).

3.) Over the past twenty years there have been 120 LSU players drafted. That comes out to an average of six LSU players drafted per year.

4.) In those last twenty years 2.3% of the players drafted league wide have been from LSU.

5.) Over the last twenty years the Saints have drafted approximately 140 players.

6.) Over the last twenty years the Saints have drafted three LSU players.

7.) Over the last twenty years 2.14% of the players the Saints have drafted have been from LSU. That's pretty much the league average. That means they are likely right about the median as far as drafting LSU players compared to the rest of the league. Half the teams have probably drafted more LSU players and half the teams have probably drafted less.

So, removing the Saints numbers from the overall league wide numbers we will recalculate.

Players drafted past twenty years minus Saints draftees: 5120 - 140 = 4980

LSU players drafted last twenty years minus Saints draftees: 120 - 3 = 117

Percentage of LSU players drafted overall with the Saints not included: 117/4980 = 2.349%

Your statement: "in fact, if you did the gymnastic scoring thing, and took the Saints out of it, that number would double..."

Oh, my! It looks like you were wrong!

Post was about Payton hating LSU, and Sean has only been here since 2006, this is 2021; do you need math tutoring in addition to reading comprehension?

Don't even have to drag you anymore, you're doing it yourself - So you killed you're own lengthy, but faulty argument with 20 years...

Thanks for playing, you're #WrongAgain...

You asked for an example to show when you were wrong, and you provided it...

I'm sure in your zeal you thought you had something, must be deflating to have based all those stats on incorrect parameters...

And in so far as LSU, I'm an SEC first - I favor the strongest team in the conference that year, so I can't claim to be a LSU diehard homer...

So your assumption is wrong as well...

You. Are. Psychotic.

No, your refusal to acknowledge reality, clearly presented before you, says you have a unaddressed pathology...

Broken Record Method of dealing with your pathological behaviour is to drive home the reality - You. Were. Wrong.

(Some of) You may want to read this - Guy Winch, PhD/Psychology Today | Why Certain People Will Never Admit They Were Wrong

The article will offer insight for those who suffer from your pathology here...

If you want to be a better person, you should seek professional help to grow, accept, and admit that you were wrong...

And on JP"s behalf, I believe this is the first time he has been like this to anyone on this thread. AG not so much, he get's like this a whole lot. Let it play out. I believe it's more to it than LSU players Fin.

This is about an insecure ego acting in bad faith, not admitting he made a faulted argument and he's wrong for doing so, and saying he was wrong...

And this is one of many exchanges with this same person who's made mistakes but his fragile ego won't allow him to say he was wrong...

Further, I'm not going to DM a bunch of folks here to win the hearts, favours...

(Disclosure: I've DM'd one person here who I consider a kindred spirit, to clarify that my post(s) were not misinterpreted, directed at that user)...

Fin, sure you mean well, but if you don't care for the discussion, you're free to move on from this thread, but this is long overdue...

If you'd go back several pages you would see that I did indeed say that I used a faulty parameter and admitted that was technically wrong. Not sure how you missed that. I've been wrong here over the years on a far greater scale than that in the past, as have us all.

You must have been so absorbed in your attacks that you overlooked that detail.

As for exchanges we have had where I was wrong ... can you give a few examples since you claim there have been MANY? I know there have been many things we have disagreed about, but just because my opinion is different than yours it doesn't make me wrong and you right.