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jeanpierre

06-21-2021 03:28 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Few Roster Spots Still Open

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 60 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 00 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 32 - Eric Burrell (UDFA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 36 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris

90-man Roster Count - Total: 85; Offense: 40; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:

*OUT - Out/Left Game
*INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive
*PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad
*LP - Limited Practice
*DNP - Did Not Practice
*CP - Concussion Protocol
*DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre

06-21-2021 03:28 PM

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Boston Saint

06-21-2021 03:55 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

How was the fishing Ice?

iceshack149

06-22-2021 10:59 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922307)

How was the fishing Ice?

We did alright. We only nabbed one King Salmon but we caught 40 Red (Sockeye) Salmon.

If you have the time, go down this rabbit hole and read about subsistence fishing in Alaska:
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cf...orChitina.main

The process as a whole is miserable fun.

rezburna

06-22-2021 11:01 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922257)

What one good FA signing would do...

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith

WR-S (2) 12 - Marquez Callaway, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255)

WR-Z (2) 15 - Golden Tate (FA 2021), 11 - Deonte Harris

I’d love that move.

K Major

06-22-2021 02:47 PM

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FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021)

I think Alex will do well in New Orleans. He's a damn good FB willing to take on LB/DE. LTrain and AK could become even more lethal. As we've already seen, all they need is a small crease and it's over.

You win in the trenches, you always have a shot at a W.

jeanpierre

06-23-2021 09:37 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922341)

Listed as a TE on roster, showed Griffin as a FB as he's a TE-H and so it's Armah vs Griffin, and though Griffin's been with the team longer, Armah is the favorite...

jeanpierre

06-24-2021 07:57 AM

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jeanpierre

06-24-2021 08:20 AM

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OFFENSE

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

A lot of what the Saints have done under Payton has been based on the Guards' play; just don't see elite, difference-making potential there...

jeanpierre

06-24-2021 08:21 AM

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jeanpierre

06-24-2021 08:21 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

*OUT - Out/Left Game
*INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive
*PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad
*LP - Limited Practice
*DNP - Did Not Practice
*CP - Concussion Protocol
*DTR - Designated To Return

AsylumGuido

06-24-2021 09:56 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922365)

Yet, as a squad, they are still recognized by many as one of the top two or three in the league. I heard an interesting stat on Ruiz yesterday. He only committed one penalty and had zero sacks allowed. Not bad for the rookie.

jeanpierre

06-24-2021 12:00 PM

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Gardner's been great at the nickel, but he could really be a playmaker on the back end...

K Major

06-24-2021 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922376)

Gardner's been great at the nickel, but he could really be a playmaker on the back end...

https://twitter.com/gatorscliff/stat...05806390771717

This will be interesting …

I think Ceedy would flourish as a SS. He plays great close to the LOS & is a terrific tackler. Similar to how Jamal Adams plays up in Seattle.

jeanpierre

06-27-2021 11:12 AM

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K Major

06-28-2021 05:56 PM

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LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)

:couch:

K Major

06-28-2021 06:05 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922432)

https://twitter.com/dlinevids1/statu...01706316333056

Granderson's main competition for snaps is our 1st rounder Payton Turner correct?

jeanpierre

06-28-2021 10:13 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922497)

Granderson's main competition for snaps is our 1st rounder Payton Turner correct?

And Davenport, maybe Tanoh...

jeanpierre

06-28-2021 10:23 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922495)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)

:couch:

Great Depth...

jeanpierre

06-28-2021 10:24 PM

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Current and former Saints on the list...

jeanpierre

06-28-2021 10:25 PM

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*OUT - Out/Left Game
*INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive
*PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad
*LP - Limited Practice
*DNP - Did Not Practice
*CP - Concussion Protocol
*DTR - Designated To Return

K Major

06-29-2021 09:12 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922506)

Great Depth...

Honestly, I don't think PRob will make any contributions (if not cut) to our team going forward & Ken Crawley lost his confidence, subsequent benching right before we acquired Eli Apple.

I do like Mr. Mansfield though. He'll take lumps early on as a rookie but I'd still like a mentor (Dre' K or Richard S) in here to get him where he needs to be.

K Major

06-29-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922503)

And Davenport, maybe Tanoh...

Facts.

I see he registered 20 tackles & a sack in 2020 not to mention he's a 4 year veteran with real starting experience. What I do like about him are the measurables. He's tall (6'7), long guy who extends on tackles. Davenport, Tanoh and P Turner are all BIG guys.

We'll definitely need to bring the heat when chasing guys like Rodgers (assuming he stays a Packer) , Tanneyhill, Josh Allen, Prescott etc.

X factor here - coach R Nielsen.

jeanpierre

06-29-2021 02:30 PM

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jeanpierre

06-30-2021 01:11 PM

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jeanpierre

07-05-2021 09:38 PM

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Rugby Saint II

07-06-2021 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922772)

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...29857719762948

Just like that we went from one of the best to one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Not for long.

jeanpierre

07-07-2021 05:22 PM

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K Major

07-07-2021 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922595)

https://twitter.com/whodatdish/statu...80214241251328

Lorenzo Neal Jr., Defensive Tackle - 2021.

Malcolm Roach 2.0 or better would be nice.

saintsfan1976

07-08-2021 03:32 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922832)

https://twitter.com/bobbyr2613/statu...86712011960323

Nice summation of the immense talent (and potential talent) on this roster.

Damn, we have a solid roster! :bng:

Both lines are stout. All Star talent at DE, LB, SS, FS, CB...

We may end up holding opponents to under 20/game.

iceshack149

07-08-2021 05:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 922857)

Don't eat the cheese!

jeanpierre

07-09-2021 01:10 PM

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jeanpierre

07-10-2021 10:33 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz
WLB
LG
CB2
SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer)

K Major

07-10-2021 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922885)

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz

No faith in 3quan huh? Contract year & a new QB (both can throw it deep) under center. Remember 3quan & Callaway were very good deep ball receivers in college.

I'll be curious to see if the Saints move on from Tre' after this season though.

halloween 65

07-10-2021 06:52 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922885)

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz
WLB
LG
CB2
SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer)

Totally agree about Jenkins. Really wish we kept Bell.

jeanpierre

07-10-2021 09:18 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922888)

Nope. He runs like an old man. If he was all that, he'd shown a helluva lot more at this point...

K Major

07-11-2021 09:14 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922893)

Nope. He runs like an old man. If he was all that, he'd shown a helluva lot more at this point...

But would it be safe to say he's performed equally or better than most of the WR's taken before him in his 2018 draft class? Dante Pettis, Courtland Sutton, James Washington < --- all high second rounders aren't exactly setting the world on fire either.

With the exception of Michael Gallup, 3quan has performed well for what he's been asked to do in this style of offense.

I wouldn't write him off just yet brother :bng:.

K Major

07-11-2021 09:33 AM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 922891)

Totally agree about Jenkins. Really wish we kept Bell.

Go back and listen to some of Dennis Allen press conferences. He went on record saying it took almost a month on figuring out how to use MJ effectively.

Stats don't tell the entire story on players, however according to PFR (pro football reference) Jenkins was statistically better than Bell in almost every category for 2020.

I'm not in those film study meetings, however one would believe the coaches may have felt VB was "limited" (INT's, TFL, QB hits etc) in his ability at the SS position. If you go back and look at his over all body of work, there was repetitive communication issues & rarely able to make an interception to change momentum. Not all on him however adding a veteran prescence helped the defense last season.

Not knocking the contributions Vonn made here, however Malcolm was a needed improvement in 2020.

saintsfan1976

07-12-2021 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 922860)

Don't eat the cheese!

Last year's avg pts per game was 21.1 I don't see how sub-20 is a stretch.

AsylumGuido

07-12-2021 03:00 PM

Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922885)

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz
WLB
LG
CB2
SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer)

Do not underestimate the value of a veteran in the clubhouse. Jenkins is a solid safety on the field and a team leader off.

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