Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922941)

Do not underestimate the value of a veteran in the clubhouse. Jenkins is a solid safety on the field and a team leader off.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922941)

Do not underestimate the value of a veteran in the clubhouse. Jenkins is a solid safety on the field and a team leader off.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922944)

Yeah, that was some invaluable leadership he showed after that number he pulled on Drew Brees on social media last year...

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922899)

Go back and listen to some of Dennis Allen press conferences. He went on record saying it took almost a month on figuring out how to use MJ effectively.

Stats don't tell the entire story on players, however according to PFR (pro football reference) Jenkins was statistically better than Bell in almost every category for 2020.

I'm not in those film study meetings, however one would believe the coaches may have felt VB was "limited" (INT's, TFL, QB hits etc) in his ability at the SS position. If you go back and look at his over all body of work, there was repetitive communication issues & rarely able to make an interception to change momentum. Not all on him however adding a veteran prescence helped the defense last season.

Not knocking the contributions Vonn made here, however Malcolm was a needed improvement in 2020.

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 922946)

Allen seems to try to mold the secondary to make Jenkins not look like bringing him back wasn't a mistake, it was and is a mistake. Jenkins really is the same old Jenkins while he was here the first time just older and slower. SS is a big concern in the backfield last season and this season.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922944)

Yeah, that was some invaluable leadership he showed after that number he pulled on Drew Brees on social media last year...

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 922992)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922990)

Yet he and Brees remain friends and Jenkins remains a leader on and off the field. They are both more mature than many members around here.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923017)

Yeah, that was real mature to take to social media rather than call, meet with a teammate...

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923015)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz

With a full season under his belt in addition to OTA's/ training camp etc, it will be interesting to see what improvement(s) Cesar makes in year 2... at right guard.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923026)

As it was he only committed one penalty and allowed zero sacks according to the in-depth evaluation of every offensive line unit in the league a few weeks back. The kid is going to be another stud.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923028)

I'm hopeful Ruiz's technique will be improved in his second second. I saw some flashes as a rookie.

Something tells me Ruiz isn't quite done auditioning for the "long term" center position even though Erik has been a mauler in the middle.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 923031)

He is undersized for a guard but that doesn't matter as much at center. There was a reason they drafted Ruiz to take over at center. McCoy was struggling with the calls at the line as a rookie and they wanted to bring in someone to make the calls at the line of scrimmage. Because of the Covid shortened preseason McCoy stayed at center and thrived in his second year. However, This TC we may see if Ruiz is better at center. Personally, I'd rather see the team kick McCoy out to center and let Ruiz play his natural position snapping the ball.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923039)

McCoy struggled with calls as a rookie? Or do you mean in rookie OTAs? Through his first 6 games of his career, Erik was ranked top 5 highest rated center in pass & run blocking in all of the NFL.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923025)

You ever make an initial mistake in judgement? Soon thereafter he DID call the teammate and hashed out the issue as adults PRIVATELY and came to a friendly understanding. It's called moving along. Letting things go. Not dwelling on the past. You know, adult sh!t.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 923031)

He is undersized for a guard but that doesn't matter as much at center. There was a reason they drafted Ruiz to take over at center. McCoy was struggling with the calls at the line as a rookie and they wanted to bring in someone to make the calls at the line of scrimmage. Because of the Covid shortened preseason McCoy stayed at center and thrived in his second year. However, This TC we may see if Ruiz is better at center. Personally, I'd rather see the team kick McCoy out to center and let Ruiz play his natural position snapping the ball.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923015)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz

With a full season under his belt in addition to OTA's/ training camp etc, it will be interesting to see what improvement(s) Cesar makes in year 2... at right guard.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923025)

You ever make an initial mistake in judgement? Soon thereafter he DID call the teammate and hashed out the issue as adults PRIVATELY and came to a friendly understanding. It's called moving along. Letting things go. Not dwelling on the past. You know, adult sh!t.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923080)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

Possible mauler for years to come at LT? Landon has a lot of potential. Good, quick feet to say he's such a big man. Also uses his leverage/hips to get low.

JP - in the few highlights I've seen over the past few months, Landon really looks like a pure LEFT TACKLE. I think he can hold his own on an island out there.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 923081)

Personally I would prefer Ruiz play at his natural position...center. He is undersized for a guard while McCoy is built to play guard. Play the best five to their strengths.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923064)

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923084)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923095)

It really doesn't matter at all what we as fans feel about an individual. The FACT is that the players ALL respect Jenkins. Your dislike of Jenkins appears to stem from political motivations. If you haven't stopped to notice, the vast majority of NFL players are of the same political ilk as is Jenkins.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923096)

Sorry, but I do not remember Ruiz being "unable to grasp the offensive calls" at center or not grasping "the concepts and reads at Center". That was his strength at Michigan. Where did you get that information? Ruiz never got the opportunity to handle center last season at all.

Saints 2020 Year-in-Review: Cesar Ruiz

"Coaches planned on McCoy, predominantly a guard in college at Texas A&M, and Ruiz to each have reps at guard and center during preseason games to find their best fits. Unfortunately, a nationwide outbreak of COVID-19 forced the cancelation of offseason workouts, preseason games, and limited training camp.

Coaches felt that leaving McCoy at center would provide the best continuity during a limited offseason. That left Ruiz to learn a new position at the NFL level with fewer reps."

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923099)

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923107)

No where in that article does it address his trying to play center. You claimed that Ruiz was "unable to grasp the offensive calls" at center or not grasping "the concepts and reads at Center". That entire article was referring to his acclimating to a new position at guard.

I'm sorry JP, but you clearly misremembered. It happens at times.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923107)

No where in that article does it address his trying to play center. You claimed that Ruiz was "unable to grasp the offensive calls" at center or not grasping "the concepts and reads at Center". That entire article was referring to his acclimating to a new position at guard.

I'm sorry JP, but you clearly misremembered. It happens at times.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923117)

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923118)

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923119)

AG after a Saints loss or in-depth, critical analysis...

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923124)

I know how bad is gets under your skin when you've been proven wrong. Hang in there, JP.

:D

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923127)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923132)

Glad you finally admitted it, JP.

;)

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923136)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923140)

I am quite stable. Why do you seem to continue to attack my mental stability? I thought personal attacks were frowned upon around here.