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jeanpierre 05-06-2021 05:59 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Open 90-man Roster Spots[/COLOR]

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 66 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206), 79 - Alex Hoffman (UDFA 2021)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021), 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021)

NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 33 - Trill Williams (UDFA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 32 - Eric Burrell (UDFA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 79; Offense: 39; Defense: 36; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 05-06-2021 06:26 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 920312)
I'm ready for CAMP!!!
Now comes the part of the year that I liken to the Age of Sail, crossing the Atlantic doldrums...

AsylumGuido 05-06-2021 07:07 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 920318)
Who else thinks we might see a lot of Jenkins playing “linebacker” next to Davis?
He's been doing that all along in the dime.

jeanpierre 05-09-2021 07:13 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Is it FINALLY Tre'Quan time in NO? Has been the question now since he was drafted...

jeanpierre 05-16-2021 07:54 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Setback on the 90-man Roster (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206), 79 - Alex Hoffman (UDFA 2021)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021), 00 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021)

NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 38 - Keith Washington Jr.


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 80; Offense: 40; Defense: 36; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

Boston Saint 05-16-2021 09:30 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 920321)
Don't they all play LBer roles at some point depending on the defense called, regardless of their actual positions?
They have to when you have LBs a as crappy as the Saints groups have been under Payton. Outside of Davis, Vilma, and Fujita, there hasn’t been a one with the talent to play for any other team in the league.

jeanpierre 05-16-2021 09:36 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 920321)
Don't they all play LBer roles at some point depending on the defense called, regardless of their actual positions?
Brother, when we were growing up if a team went to a 3-WR set, it was a big deal and it was in a 3rd and long (7 yds+) and has less than a 20% success rate...

Now with pass defense rules handcuffing defense, you're just putting bodies on bodies and requiring passers be highly accurate and receivers have reliable hands...

Today's NFL Linebacker is nothing more than really big and fast rover or star backers covering TEs and RBs...

But now it's pass to open the run...

ChrisXVI 05-16-2021 02:20 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 05-16-2021 04:26 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 05-16-2021 04:26 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 05-16-2021 04:27 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints – Saints Rookie MiniCamp (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206), 79 - Alex Hoffman (UDFA 2021)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 00 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 00 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 00 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 20 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 85; Offense: 41; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

Rugby Saint II 05-17-2021 02:36 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Our roster is still one of the best in the NFL and is recognized by the media as having one of the top offensive lines in the NFL. We've got starters at all positions, without knowing anymore about Lattimore's case, but we desperately need depth and a solid number two at several positions on both offense and defense.

AsylumGuido 05-17-2021 03:47 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I know that there are some around here that see Winston as actually an upgrade to the 2020 version of Drew Brees. If so, can someone explain to me how another 13-4 type season isn't possible?

Personally, I'm going with 20-0!

ChrisXVI 05-17-2021 03:57 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

AsylumGuido 05-17-2021 04:06 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 920777)
Championship!

jeanpierre 05-17-2021 04:22 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 920777)
Tweet Shared

So we're essentially replacing Jenkins with Paulson Adebo of last year's secondary...

jeanpierre 05-17-2021 06:58 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 05-17-2021 07:01 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Finding the Right 90-man Roster

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 00 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 00 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 00 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 84; Offense: 40; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

Rugby Saint II 05-18-2021 11:41 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 920774)
I know that there are some around here that see Winston as actually an upgrade to the 2020 version of Drew Brees. If so, can someone explain to me how another 13-4 type season isn't possible?

Personally, I'm going with 20-0!
Did you look at the roster recently, the list of players that we cut ties with this season, or our roster depth? You are the eternal optimist Guido! Good luck with that.

AsylumGuido 05-18-2021 11:54 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 920828)
Did you look at the roster recently, the list of players that we cut ties with this season, or our roster depth? You are the eternal optimist Guido! Good luck with that.
Yes I have. There's no reason why they couldn't manage 13 or 14 wins as long as they stay healthy. There is still a ton of talent on the roster.

K Major 05-18-2021 03:21 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Cornerback Bryce Thompson - UDFA Tennessee .. anyone know if the Saints signed him?

AsylumGuido 05-18-2021 03:39 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 920845)
Cornerback Bryce Thompson - UDFA Tennessee .. anyone know if the Saints signed him?
May 2 - Bryce Thompson signed a 3 year, $2,425,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including an average annual salary of $808,333. In 2021, Thompson will earn a base salary of $660,000, while carrying a cap hit of $660,000.

Bryce Thompson - Spotrac.com

jeanpierre 05-19-2021 07:13 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 920828)
Did you look at the roster recently, the list of players that we cut ties with this season, or our roster depth? You are the eternal optimist Guido! Good luck with that.
Rugs, essentially have same CBs as last season with a rookie Paulson Adebo replacing Janoris; drafting Trevon Moehrig in R1 to replace Malcolm would've been great...

In truth, don't mind rotating a rookie into a position group every other year so we can have both youth, fiscally-smart allotment in that position group...

Really believe Adebo will play at a better level than drafted (he was a first round grade at one point in his collegiate career)...

Now, Taking Payton Turner tells me a few things:

One, now Asst HC Ryan Nielsen definitely has Sean's ear...

Two, Losing Hendrickson concerned Sean more than some in our community here...

Three, Turner will be Cam Jordan's relief this year, eventual replacement, but Davenport is on double-secret probation...

Four, while he was, admitted by Payton, a second-round grade, they really like the kid and his attitude, along with his physical talent...

Five, the only real area of concern on this team, albeit the most important position, is quarterback; Jameis is an ass-hat, a clown, and he'll buckle...

The only hope for a quick solution at QB is that Taysom steps up as the Steve Young that Sean visualized OR the team tanks and we get a Top 10 pick...

But across this roster, the only other questions are limited to the offensive line not named Ramczyk or McCoy, though there's some promising reserves there...

jeanpierre 05-19-2021 07:23 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 920845)
Cornerback Bryce Thompson - UDFA Tennessee .. anyone know if the Saints signed him?
This accurate, concise read PFN/Tony Pauline | Bryce Thompson, CB, Tennessee – NFL Draft Player Profile nails it - we're basically getting a young P. J. Williams...

A versatile, NFL talent defensive back, only instead of a third round pick, we got him as an undrafted free agent - he stays on course, healthy, it's a win...

While some NFL personnel value Zierlein's take than I, some good info here as well - NFL.com/Lance Zierlein | Bryce Thompson Draft and Combine Prospect Profile

st thomas 05-19-2021 07:28 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 920846)
May 2 - Bryce Thompson signed a 3 year, $2,425,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including an average annual salary of $808,333. In 2021, Thompson will earn a base salary of $660,000, while carrying a cap hit of $660,000.

Bryce Thompson - Spotrac.com

Does it come out to minimum wage in NFL standard AG


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AsylumGuido 05-19-2021 09:00 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 920866)
Does it come out to minimum wage in NFL standard AG


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yup. $660K is rookie minimum for 2021. $825K is minimum 2nd year salary in 2022. $940K is 3rd year minimum in 2023. Those are Thompson's terms, so he was signed to the standard three year minimum deal.

NFL Minimum Salaries per 2020-2030 CBA

SERVICE20202021202220232024202520262027202820292030
0$610k$660k$705k$750k$795k$840k$885k$930k$975k$1.020M$1.065M
1$675k$780k$825k$870k$915k$960k$1.005M$1.050M$1.095M$1.140M$1.185M
2$750k$850k$895k$940k$985k$1.030M$1.075M$1.120M$1.165M$1.210M$1.255M
3$825k$920k$965k$1.010M$1.055M$1.100M$1.145M$1.190M$1.235M$1.280M$1.325M
4$910k$990k$1.035M$1.080M$1.125M$1.170M$1.215M$1.260M$1.305M$1.350M$1.395M
5$910k$990k$1.035M$1.080M$1.125M$1.170M$1.215M$1.260M$1.305M$1.350M$1.395M
6$910k$990k$1.035M$1.080M$1.125M$1.170M$1.215M$1.260M$1.305M$1.350M$1.395M
7$1.050M$1.075M$1.120M$1.165M$1.210M$1.255M$1.300M$1.345M$1.390M$1.435M$1.480M
8$1.050M$1.075M$1.120M$1.165M$1.210M$1.255M$1.300M$1.345M$1.390M$1.435M$1.480M
9$1.050M$1.075M$1.120M$1.165M$1.210M$1.255M$1.300M$1.345M$1.390M$1.435M$1.480M
10+$1.050M$1.075M$1.120M$1.165M$1.210M$1.255M$1.300M$1.345M$1.390M$1.435M$1.480M

Rugby Saint II 05-19-2021 10:57 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 920864)
Rugs, essentially have same CBs as last season with a rookie Paulson Adebo replacing Janoris; drafting Trevon Moehrig in R1 to replace Malcolm would've been great...

In truth, don't mind rotating a rookie into a position group every other year so we can have both youth, fiscally-smart allotment in that position group...

Really believe Adebo will play at a better level than drafted (he was a first round grade at one point in his collegiate career)...

Now, Taking Payton Turner tells me a few things:

One, now Asst HC Ryan Nielsen definitely has Sean's ear...

Two, Losing Hendrickson concerned Sean more than some in our community here...

Three, Turner will be Cam Jordan's relief this year, eventual replacement, but Davenport is on double-secret probation...

Four, while he was, admitted by Payton, a second-round grade, they really like the kid and his attitude, along with his physical talent...

Five, the only real area of concern on this team, albeit the most important position, is quarterback; Jameis is an ass-hat, a clown, and he'll buckle...

The only hope for a quick solution at QB is that Taysom steps up as the Steve Young that Sean visualized OR the team tanks and we get a Top 10 pick...

But across this roster, the only other questions are limited to the offensive line not named Ramczyk or McCoy, though there's some promising reserves there...
Jameis is an ass hat but I'm willing to give him a few games to reevaluate him. I don't have much hope for his development but I'm one of those people that likes to be proven wrong from time to time. It's how we grow.

I'm still worried about our depth but that's what happens when you go for it all several years in a row and fall short, although you did say that we had some promising reserves and I'll just have to take your word for it. I certainly hope that you are right because those reserves may become the eventual starters.

iceshack149 05-19-2021 11:09 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Is the Saints QB group average or subpar?

Rugby Saint II 05-19-2021 11:24 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 920880)
Is the Saints QB group average or subpar?
To my untrained eye we would be lucky to be subpar. I don't believe that Taysom is the next Steve Young and that he can achieve his potential best as the NFL's most well known "Multi Tool". Jameis has the potential but right now that's all he has. We have a young journeyman on the practice squad named Siemien and a 4th round rookie draft pick that is a relatively unknown outside of Payton and his QB coaches who vouched for him along with the scouts.

iceshack149 05-19-2021 11:42 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 920881)
To my untrained eye we would be lucky to be subpar. I don't believe that Taysom is the next Steve Young and that he can achieve his potential best as the NFL's most well known "Multi Tool". Jameis has the potential but right now that's all he has. We have a young journeyman on the practice squad named Siemien and a 4th round rookie draft pick that is a relatively unknown outside of Payton and his QB coaches who vouched for him along with the scouts.

I'd put them at average but without even knowing which guy will start it's difficult to speculate. I don't believe that Taysom Hill is a starting QB in the NFL and I can only hope that Winston can be good with a great offensive mind like Payton training him.

AsylumGuido 05-19-2021 12:27 PM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 920884)
I'd put them at average but without even knowing which guy will start it's difficult to speculate. I don't believe that Taysom Hill is a starting QB in the NFL and I can only hope that Winston can be good with a great offensive mind like Payton training him.
I think "average" would be the floor for the Saints QB room. Winston has five years of starting experience and has put up eye-popping numbers at times. The interception total (30) in his final season with the Bucs was more than double his career average (14.5) coming into that season. Bruce Arians had more than a little to do with that anomalous number. I would not be surprised at all to see Winston finish in the top third of the league in several positive categories.

SmashMouth 05-20-2021 03:57 AM
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jeanpierre 05-20-2021 06:04 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Finding the Right 90-man Roster

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021), 7 - Taysom Hill, 15 - Trevor Siemian (RFC 2021), 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 37 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 34 - Stevie Scott III (UDFA 2021)

FB (1) 40 - Alex Armah (FA 2021), 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 12 - Marquez Callaway, 19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)

WR-S (2) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021), 85 - Easop Winston (FA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Kyle Murphy (FA 2021)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 68 - Derrick Kelly

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (RFA 2021), 61 - Christian Montano (FA 2021)

RG (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 65 - Mike Brown (UDFA 2021)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2021), 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2021), 59 - Marcus Willoughby (RFC 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Ryan Glasgow (RFC 2021), 00 - Albert Huggins (FA 2021), 00 - Lorenzo Neal, Jr (UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach, 91 - Josiah Bronson (UDFA 2021), 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28), 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 70 - Christian Ringo (RFC 2021)

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 42 - Chase Hansen (RFC 2021), 54 - Wynton McManis (RFC 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 58 - Shaq Smith (UDFA 2021), 47 - Sutton Smith (FA2021), 00 - Quentin Poling (FA 2021)

SLB (2) 53 - Zach Baun, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021), 38 - Keith Washington Jr.

NCB (2) 30 - Grant Haley (RFC 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (UDFA 2021), 35 - Lawrence Woods (UDFA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 32 - Eric Burrell (UDFA 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 36 - Deuce Wallace (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Patrick Robinson, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 5 - Nolan Cooney

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris


90-man Roster Count - Total: 85; Offense: 40; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 0


Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Opt-Out


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Injured, Reserve/Non-Football Injury (IR), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP), Reserve/Opt-Out (OPT)

Reserve/Covid-19

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre 05-20-2021 06:13 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
For camp, need at least two (2) more TEy; another RT/LG type; and another WRx and WRs...

Rugby Saint II 05-20-2021 09:37 AM
Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 920914)
For camp, need at least two (2) more TEy; another RT/LG type; and another WRx and WRs...
We absolutely need more tight ends. Whoever is playing QB will probably need a check down valve especially early on in the season before our offense can get it's legs underneath it.

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