Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB

Boston Saint · 06-08-2021, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We've seen a large sample size of the best Winston has offered; factor that a 43 yo QB just took Winston's former team and won a Superbowl, he's not an NFL winner...

Taysom Hill has only had four career starts at QB and earned QBR ratings of 108.9, 43.2, 107.0, 102.0 respectively (Source: ProFootball Reference)...

Hill's small sample size is quite impressive when you also factor that Michael Thomas had some of his best games last year, with Hill, playing injured...

Further, in today's game, Hill offers the added dynamic feature of being the better runner...

From this we can surmize Hill offers a higher ceiling than Winston...

I’m not following that logic. One of Winston’s 4 first games in his rookie season was a Win against the Saints where he had a QBR of 114+. The Saints had a better record that year than any of the teams Hill beat last year. Now, that performance is better than anything Hill has done so, by your reasoning, Winston has a higher ceiling because he had a higher QBR in one of
his first 4 starts than Hill did in any of his first four starts. Hill also has never had a 3 TD, 400 yard passing game before...Winston has. Winston’s 4 best games are better than Hills 4 best games. So, how does Hill have a higher ceiling?

And how do you know we’ve seen the best Winston has to offer? Tampa has not been a historically successful franchise and where you say a 40 YO QB took his team to the SB I can say it took the future HOF/winningest/best QB to ever play the game to unseat him. You don’t think a 27 YO QB could get better playing under Payton? Brees did.

And I will repeat that I am not pulling for either player. Makes no
difference to me who emerges as starter. I hope and expect them to produce. I am just surprised at the willingness some have to write Winston off as done. Multiple HOF QBs have demonstrated worse years than Winston has produced. But, oh well. Time will tell.

06-08-2021, 04:45 AM	#11
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by jeanpierre We've seen a large sample size of the best Winston has offered; factor that a 43 yo QB just took Winston's former team and won a Superbowl, he's not an NFL winner... Taysom Hill has only had four career starts at QB and earned QBR ratings of 108.9, 43.2, 107.0, 102.0 respectively (Source: ProFootball Reference)... Hill's small sample size is quite impressive when you also factor that Michael Thomas had some of his best games last year, with Hill, playing injured... Further, in today's game, Hill offers the added dynamic feature of being the better runner... From this we can surmize Hill offers a higher ceiling than Winston... I’m not following that logic. One of Winston’s 4 first games in his rookie season was a Win against the Saints where he had a QBR of 114+. The Saints had a better record that year than any of the teams Hill beat last year. Now, that performance is better than anything Hill has done so, by your reasoning, Winston has a higher ceiling because he had a higher QBR in one of his first 4 starts than Hill did in any of his first four starts. Hill also has never had a 3 TD, 400 yard passing game before...Winston has. Winston’s 4 best games are better than Hills 4 best games. So, how does Hill have a higher ceiling? And how do you know we’ve seen the best Winston has to offer? Tampa has not been a historically successful franchise and where you say a 40 YO QB took his team to the SB I can say it took the future HOF/winningest/best QB to ever play the game to unseat him. You don’t think a 27 YO QB could get better playing under Payton? Brees did. And I will repeat that I am not pulling for either player. Makes no difference to me who emerges as starter. I hope and expect them to produce. I am just surprised at the willingness some have to write Winston off as done. Multiple HOF QBs have demonstrated worse years than Winston has produced. But, oh well. Time will tell. rezburna likes this.
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