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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Flipx99 I have no idea where you comment about infected people believing they should have the right to infect other people came from, no on has suggested that. I think he is referring to people that are ...
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08-20-2021, 04:51 PM | #21 |
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Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds
Originally Posted by Flipx99
I think he is referring to people that are protesting the requirement to present a negative test result. That does lead one to surmise that they feel it is their right to attend if infected. And that right would include infecting others. I seriously doubt many people would feel this way, but I would also be expecting that some would, either consciously or not. I have met some that have said as much that have refused to do anything to protect themselves and others stating the government isn't going to force them to do anything and the COVID is a lie and that people aren't really getting sick and dying. Believe me, I keep my social distance from those.
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Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
There is no way an infected average single person or family can be without food and water for the supposed quarantine period they are wanting. They have no choice but to get out ( grocery store/ pharmacy) to survive. How many people got the flu last year(Killed just as many if not more people over God knows how many years without a cure) did any of you hear about?Seemed like the flu disappeared and covid took over. Sickest I ever got was after getting a flu shot. Also a normal person don't really want anything shoved up there nose that deep to where it hits their brain so to speak and to have it done on multiple occasions don't seem to appealing. The mask are a total joke unless they are N-95 or better and breathing in them all the time restrict airflow to the lungs( not a normal function) and as far as kids still developing their lung function in the long run will cause breathing problems. I've had the crap( no smell, no taste for 4 days with no other symtoms) it affects a lot of people different. The way the CDC, government, private buisnesses are going about this so called pandimic the wrong way, it should be let to run it's course if they really want HERD immunity.
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Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds
Originally Posted by halloween 65
Do you believe the purpose of wearing a mask is to protect yourself or others from you in case you are unknowingly infected?
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Masks are not for your protection. The masks are to keep infected people from spreading the virus.
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Exactly. Somehow that simple concept escapes some people, Rugs. That's the reason why everyone in an operating room wears a mask. It is not to protect themselves from the patient, it is to protect the patient from anything that they may have themselves. That's why a simple surgical mask is so effective to prevent the spread of COVID ... IF people would wear them, of course.
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Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I actually know someone who has been in the hospital for two weeks because she refused treatment for so long based on her belief that Covid is a hoax. It's hard to believe that someone can actually believe that, but obviously it was a sincerely held belief.
I am empathetic toward such people. If our leadership and the media would be more responsible with their messaging people would be more likely to believe them. It was just what, a week ago, that Biden came out and definitively said that if you have been vaccinated that you will not get Covid? That's simply not true. Why not just tell the truth - you will be less likely to be infected if exposed, but there will be some vaccinated people who are infected. If you do get infected after being vaccinated, you are less likely to become seriously ill. Of course, that idiot will lie when the truth would be better. It is just what he is always done. |
08-20-2021, 06:59 PM | #27 |
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Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds
Originally Posted by Flipx99
That's why we should leave politics out of it all. I don't trust ANY politician on either side. I listen to the medical community directly when it comes to all of this.
It's sad that the person you know is going through this. She is clearly one of those brainwashed individuals I mentioned earlier. |
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The designer mask, do absolutly nothing and really are a joke. A certified rated mask N-95 or better, yes. I wear N-95's, half face, full face, oxygen supplied quite regularly and with the proper filters on them they do a he!! of a job protecting your lungs from harmful elements. But ( there is always a but in there) without being fit test( and pulmonary tested) for the right size means absolutely nothing. No true seal means leaks. (Oh, and must be clean shaven to get the seal. )I don't believe the general public is going through all this and are spreading it with there PRETTY LITTLE DESIGNER MASK. I do actually like the design on some of them though, cool to look at but goes no farther than that.
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08-20-2021, 07:16 PM | #29 |
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Originally Posted by halloween 65
You totally missed the point of the question, but your reply gave me the answer. You are clearly under the impression that the purpose of masks are to protect the wearer.
That is totally wrong. Mask wearing is NOT to protect the person wearing the mask. I repeat ... mask wearing is NOT to protect the person wearing the mask. The primary purpose of wearing a mask is to protect OTHERS. Any mask, no matter how simple, is very effective at capturing the emissions from the wearer that carry the virus. Everything you posted refers to protection, not to preventing the spread. You have either totally missed the point or are ignoring the point. You have just repeated oft mention arguments that have no pertinence to the mask purpose whatsoever. |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
You can repeat all you want, without the proper mask it doesn't work, period, no matter if you wear it or I wear it or if you don't or I don't it's the same thing. If it's not the proper mask it does not matter it still is spread. Maybe you should wear one of those pretty little mask in an oxygen deficient atmosphere and I'll wear a proper oxygen supplied and we'll see how it turns out. Bet you turn blue and I want. Now repeat that. And if protection doesn't prevent then everything I've ever been taught is wrong. Hey man, does a contraceptive protect or prevent? You truly are a funny guy!!
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