Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots

Boston Saint · 09-28-2021, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Yes the media was building Winston up in the beginning. MVP etc. A year behind Brees, Coach Payton blah blah blah. NOW they have seen him. No change from Tampa. So most of them are jumping off the Winston bandwagon. Payton not giving him a chance to throw too many times is because he knows what that would mean. It is so boring to hear the "anyone who followed Brees would have a lot of criticism" etc. HONEST eyeball evaluation. "He is who he was". In the words of the great american philosopher Forest Gump, "You can't fix stupid." QB play REQUIRES cerebral play. We're not seeing it.

Sorry Thirty, I disagree. It’s not same old Tampa Winston. He’s being very cerebral in that he’s smart enough to not be throwing passes he shouldn’t for the most part. He’s thrown passes away and took sacks rather than toss it up. He’s on a 39 TD 11 INT pace. That’s hardly same old Tampa Jameis. And he’s not had a Godwin/Evans type WR combo to throw to. It’s only been three games (with a displaced team who has had COVID issues) but I see more maturity on his part. Time will tell.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-28-2021, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Sorry Thirty, I disagree. It’s not same old Tampa Winston. He’s being very cerebral in that he’s smart enough to be throwing passes he shouldn’t for the
most part. He’s thrown passes away and took sacks rather than toss it up. He’s on a 39 TD 11 INT pace. That’s hardly same old Tampa Jameis. And he’s not had a Godwin/Evans type WR combo to throw to. It’s only been three games (with a displaced team who has had COVID issues) but I see a more maturity on his part. Time will tell.

And to be fair Drew didn't start the year off in 2006 good either, neither did Teddy but once they settled in they rolled. It took them a few games. This is a complex offense. Drew wasn’t Drew till 2009 it took a couple years. Some are looking for a finished product when it’s still in its infancy

09-28-2021, 04:42 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Thirty3 Yes the media was building Winston up in the beginning. MVP etc. A year behind Brees, Coach Payton blah blah blah. NOW they have seen him. No change from Tampa. So most of them are jumping off the Winston bandwagon. Payton not giving him a chance to throw too many times is because he knows what that would mean. It is so boring to hear the "anyone who followed Brees would have a lot of criticism" etc. HONEST eyeball evaluation. "He is who he was". In the words of the great american philosopher Forest Gump, "You can't fix stupid." QB play REQUIRES cerebral play. We're not seeing it. Sorry Thirty, I disagree. It’s not same old Tampa Winston. He’s being very cerebral in that he’s smart enough to not be throwing passes he shouldn’t for the most part. He’s thrown passes away and took sacks rather than toss it up. He’s on a 39 TD 11 INT pace. That’s hardly same old Tampa Jameis. And he’s not had a Godwin/Evans type WR combo to throw to. It’s only been three games (with a displaced team who has had COVID issues) but I see more maturity on his part. Time will tell. leilung, AsylumGuido, K Major and 2 others like this.
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09-28-2021, 04:50 PM	#2
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sorry Thirty, I disagree. It’s not same old Tampa Winston. He’s being very cerebral in that he’s smart enough to be throwing passes he shouldn’t for the most part. He’s thrown passes away and took sacks rather than toss it up. He’s on a 39 TD 11 INT pace. That’s hardly same old Tampa Jameis. And he’s not had a Godwin/Evans type WR combo to throw to. It’s only been three games (with a displaced team who has had COVID issues) but I see a more maturity on his part. Time will tell. And to be fair Drew didn't start the year off in 2006 good either, neither did Teddy but once they settled in they rolled. It took them a few games. This is a complex offense. Drew wasn’t Drew till 2009 it took a couple years. Some are looking for a finished product when it’s still in its infancy AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, K Major and 2 others like this.