Trevor Siemian

RailBoss · 11-18-2021, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

If it was possible to release a player during a game, I would have released Trautman during the game last week. The dude may have potential, but he is playing like straight trash.

Lol..
the Dude just doesn't seem to have any consistency.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2021, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

If it was possible to release a player during a game, I would have released Trautman during the game last week. The dude may have potential, but he is playing like straight trash.

He screwed up twice. One dropped pass and the crucial penalty. Beyond that he led the team in receptions last week with five. He's also the only player on the Saints in the top 50 in both contested catch rate and "the distance in yards between the receiver and the nearest defender at the time of a catch or incompletion."

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2021, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Lol..
the Dude just doesn't seem to have any consistency.

This is true. He runs three great routes and catches two passes in traffic and then drops an easy one.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2021, 09:50 AM

This is too telling not to drop here, as well. Wow!

iceshack149 · 11-18-2021, 10:41 AM

Trautman has become the new Jason David! I think he's still getting acclimated to the big league and is getting better with each game played.

He's no Coby Fleener.

Rugby Saint II · 11-18-2021, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Go look at some of Trevor's tape from his Denver days.

Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders had no problems catching his passes.

Trevor is plenty good enough to lead the troops but he simply doesn't have many options on the receiving end.

True Dat!

saintsfan1976 · 11-18-2021, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not from what I've been seeing. Not even close. I've seen far too much hesitation letting open receivers get covered before the ball arrives. I've seen multiple occasions where passes are floated instead of being zipped in there. Any offensive success statistically speaking by Siemian has come late in the game when we have been down by large margins and the defense has gone into a prevent mode.

He's started 2 games. Why don't you give him a minute to get acclimated to running the offense. At least we're seeing him have success.

5 TDs. 0 INTs. Over 700 yds passing. 94pt QBR. It's a very good start.

saintsfan1976 · 11-18-2021, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd rather see Taysom get the opportunity at this time...

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Same here. He's not getting enough opportunities in the joker role so he might as well be under center. When he has had the opportunity to pass it has had velocity behind it. I actually think those "off speed" passes that Siemian has been throwing has led to several of those drops we have seen. It's like the receiver is anticipating the ball to already be there when it hasn't yet arrived.

Originally Posted by K Major

Me too.

Titans had tape on Trevor and he can't beat the blitz/stunts & thus far he's 0-2 as a starter. Has he lost any games? Nope, but he hasn't won any either. At least Taysom can create something with his legs when things break down.

We need a spark.

Oh, so you prefer balls in the dirt and sailing out of reach to dropped passes?

saintsfan1976 · 11-18-2021, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is too telling not to drop here, as well. Wow!

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...30741443317762

This stat brought to you by three different QBs, a weak ass WR corps and cobbled together O line.

frydaddy · 11-18-2021, 04:48 PM

Taysom Hill isn't starting NFL QB material, and he's never going to be. The man is in his 30s, too late to rebuild his mechanics and make him a proper passer. I know he managed to win some games last year, but he had a better supporting cast around him than what Siemian currently has to work with. I'd be willing to bet that putting him in as the starter would result in more lopsided losses than anything. Seems Payton has the same idea, or he wouldn't still be rolling with Trevor over Taysom.

11-18-2021, 09:04 AM	#201
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by hitta If it was possible to release a player during a game, I would have released Trautman during the game last week. The dude may have potential, but he is playing like straight trash. Lol.. the Dude just doesn't seem to have any consistency. AsylumGuido likes this.

11-18-2021, 09:14 AM	#202
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by hitta If it was possible to release a player during a game, I would have released Trautman during the game last week. The dude may have potential, but he is playing like straight trash. He screwed up twice. One dropped pass and the crucial penalty. Beyond that he led the team in receptions last week with five. He's also the only player on the Saints in the top 50 in both contested catch rate and "the distance in yards between the receiver and the nearest defender at the time of a catch or incompletion."

11-18-2021, 09:15 AM	#203
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by RailBoss Lol.. the Dude just doesn't seem to have any consistency. This is true. He runs three great routes and catches two passes in traffic and then drops an easy one.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Trevor Siemian This is too telling not to drop here, as well. Wow! Twitter

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Trevor Siemian Trautman has become the new Jason David! I think he's still getting acclimated to the big league and is getting better with each game played. He's no Coby Fleener. AsylumGuido likes this.

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11-18-2021, 02:12 PM	#206
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by K Major Go look at some of Trevor's tape from his Denver days. Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders had no problems catching his passes. Trevor is plenty good enough to lead the troops but he simply doesn't have many options on the receiving end. True Dat!

11-18-2021, 04:37 PM	#207
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not from what I've been seeing. Not even close. I've seen far too much hesitation letting open receivers get covered before the ball arrives. I've seen multiple occasions where passes are floated instead of being zipped in there. Any offensive success statistically speaking by Siemian has come late in the game when we have been down by large margins and the defense has gone into a prevent mode. He's started 2 games. Why don't you give him a minute to get acclimated to running the offense. At least we're seeing him have success. 5 TDs. 0 INTs. Over 700 yds passing. 94pt QBR. It's a very good start.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd rather see Taysom get the opportunity at this time... Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Same here. He's not getting enough opportunities in the joker role so he might as well be under center. When he has had the opportunity to pass it has had velocity behind it. I actually think those "off speed" passes that Siemian has been throwing has led to several of those drops we have seen. It's like the receiver is anticipating the ball to already be there when it hasn't yet arrived. Originally Posted by K Major Me too. Titans had tape on Trevor and he can't beat the blitz/stunts & thus far he's 0-2 as a starter. Has he lost any games? Nope, but he hasn't won any either. At least Taysom can create something with his legs when things break down. We need a spark. Oh, so you prefer balls in the dirt and sailing out of reach to dropped passes? iceshack149, cmike and Thirty3 like this.

11-18-2021, 04:42 PM	#209
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Siemian Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is too telling not to drop here, as well. Wow! https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...30741443317762 This stat brought to you by three different QBs, a weak ass WR corps and cobbled together O line.

11-18-2021, 04:48 PM	#210
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Trevor Siemian Taysom Hill isn't starting NFL QB material, and he's never going to be. The man is in his 30s, too late to rebuild his mechanics and make him a proper passer. I know he managed to win some games last year, but he had a better supporting cast around him than what Siemian currently has to work with. I'd be willing to bet that putting him in as the starter would result in more lopsided losses than anything. Seems Payton has the same idea, or he wouldn't still be rolling with Trevor over Taysom.

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