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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by bobdog86 What do you think "Chief" means? The term is now Offensive coordinator or Defensive coordinator. I understand your the consument Polyanna of the group, and that's okay.......But come on quit beating the dead horse here. Your ...

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Old 02-23-2022, 02:45 PM   #1
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What do you think "Chief" means? The term is now Offensive coordinator or Defensive coordinator. I understand your the consument Polyanna of the group, and that's okay.......But come on quit beating the dead horse here. Your not convincing me
The point I was making is there were only seven coaches back then. Staffs have grown to 30 coaches. Coaching is becoming more and more specialized. A corporation can have any number of VP's with different areas of expertise. A football team can have any number of DC's with different areas of expertise.

If both were doing the exact same thing I would see the problem. Obviously. But if each has their own area of responsibility what would be the issue? I believe you are getting hung up on the title itself, not the individual jobs for which they will be responsible.

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The point I was making is there were only seven coaches back then. Staffs have grown to 30 coaches. Coaching is becoming more and more specialized. A corporation can have any number of VP's with different areas of expertise. A football team can have any number of DC's with different areas of expertise.

If both were doing the exact same thing I would see the problem. Obviously. But if each has their own area of responsibility what would be the issue? I believe you are getting hung up on the title itself, not the individual jobs for which they will be responsible.
The point you were making was irrelevant, as it typically is. And it doesn't matter anyway because whatever they do you'll sign up for because you don't have a brain...

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The point I was making is there were only seven coaches back then. Staffs have grown to 30 coaches. Coaching is becoming more and more specialized. A corporation can have any number of VP's with different areas of expertise. A football team can have any number of DC's with different areas of expertise.

If both were doing the exact same thing I would see the problem. Obviously. But if each has their own area of responsibility what would be the issue? I believe you are getting hung up on the title itself, not the individual jobs for which they will be responsible.
Please, please don't think for me or pretend to know what I'm "hung" up on. You like the idea....great, good for you...I don't like it. Your not changing my position, I'm not changing yours, which is fine. There is no right or wrong. We don't have 2 presidents just because one is better at something than the other, you don't have 2 Wing Commanders of an AF base....Just my position. I'm done responding to your position, let's just leave it there. I respect and appreciate your perspective, you just need to reciprocate. Peace and Geaux Saints!
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Old 02-23-2022, 03:37 PM   #4
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Please, please don't think for me or pretend to know what I'm "hung" up on. You like the idea....great, good for you...I don't like it. Your not changing my position, I'm not changing yours, which is fine. There is no right or wrong. We don't have 2 presidents just because one is better at something than the other, you don't have 2 Wing Commanders of an AF base....Just my position. I'm done responding to your position, let's just leave it there. I respect and appreciate your perspective, you just need to reciprocate. Peace and Geaux Saints!
I guess I see Dennis Allen as the Wing Commander and Nielsen and Richard as Group Commanders. Oh, well. All a matter of perspective, of course.

But, I suppose you may right. There probably is some chance they don't know what they are doing. I suppose we'll find out the details of their plan later.

By the way, were you USAF? My dad retired as the 2nd Bomb Wing Gunner here at Barksdale.
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Cam's working on getting the scoop. LOL!

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Cam is a great follow.

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Old 02-24-2022, 09:51 PM   #7
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I guess I see Dennis Allen as the Wing Commander and Nielsen and Richard as Group Commanders. Oh, well. All a matter of perspective, of course.

But, I suppose you may right. There probably is some chance they don't know what they are doing. I suppose we'll find out the details of their plan later.

By the way, were you USAF? My dad retired as the 2nd Bomb Wing Gunner here at Barksdale.
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