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saintfan 03-14-2022 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 947144)
Winstons gotta be watching this unfold at home

And Watson...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...pya4g&usqp=CAU

K Major 03-14-2022 06:17 PM

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I'm willing to bet another team is somewhere waiting in the bushes to make a splash trade for Watson.

Not sold on "this is down to two teams" talk & I got a feeling Watson's camp is using Tepper and the Panthers.

Only thing I do see is that Houston wants him out of the AFC. Probably why the Steelers opted to sign Trubisky today.

ChrisXVI 03-14-2022 06:21 PM

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What’s done is done. Now we wait.

saintsfan1976 03-14-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 947106)
Loomis is apparently in Houston according to the other board.

There's another board????

saintsfan1976 03-14-2022 08:11 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947146)
I'm willing to bet another team is somewhere waiting in the bushes to make a splash trade for Watson.

Not sold on "this is down to two teams" talk & I got a feeling Watson's camp is using Tepper and the Panthers.

Only thing I do see is that Houston wants him out of the AFC. Probably why the Steelers opted to sign Trubisky today.

I have zero issues believing Tepper is all in on Watson. What else does he have, really? Rhule sucks. O line sucks. Defense is too young. RB can't stay on the field. No thanks.

saintsfan1976 03-14-2022 08:12 PM

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Three firsts, a third and Ruiz is basically what Underhill was suggesting.

TheOak 03-14-2022 08:12 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 947144)
Winstons gotta be watching this unfold at home

We paid him and gave him opportunity, he was there when we needed and performed as we needed. Neither side owes the other but I am sure one side feels a little less ...shall we say... enamored with the other at this point.

Then there is the possibility that the Saints under bid on Watson to put pressure on Winston to come to terms.

This is a good example of why I do not have any faith in Allen after his press conference. He came out and drove home the point that he is an 'in the now' 'straight up' kind of guy... That makes him, by his own admission, a checker player in a game of chess.

saintfan 03-14-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 947150)
Three firsts, a third and Ruiz is basically what Underhill was suggesting.

They're going to want defense too - if they have half a brain. I give them 3 first and Ruiz all day long.

SmashMouth 03-14-2022 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 947147)
https://twitter.com/aaronwilson_nfl/...11232124534790

What’s done is done. Now we wait.


Then we should know tomorrow sometime...?

SmashMouth 03-15-2022 02:05 AM

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TheOak 03-15-2022 06:01 AM

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My concern is his upcoming focus. 22 civil suits is an absolute **ckton of distraction and stress, those are not class action so he has to handle them independently. Depositions, accusations, every one in a city close enough for reporters to round trip in a day.

Probably also worth mentioning that a $150MM+ NFL QB went to see a masseuse in her home. Some might call that absolutely stupid and question his judgement. The big easy is not exactly a safe place for him lol.

subguy 03-15-2022 06:17 AM

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HMM not sure of this...but I would probably do it

TRADE IDEA:
#Texans Receive:
•3 1st Round Draft Picks
•Andrus Peat
•Taysom Hill
•2 3rd Round Draft Picks

#Saints Receive:
•Deshaun Watson
•Brandin Cooks

subguy 03-15-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 947178)
My concern is his upcoming focus. 22 civil suits is an absolute **ckton of distraction and stress, those are not class action so he has to handle them independently. Depositions, accusations, every one in a city close enough for reporters to round trip in a day.

Probably also worth mentioning that a $150MM+ NFL QB went to see a masseuse in her home. Some might call that absolutely stupid and question his judgement. The big easy is not exactly a safe place for him lol.

First, I think you have to sell him on the idea of NOLA. Once he is considering, then you have to have that conversation, have you learned anything about putting yourself in bad situations.

We need to get it done

TheKillerBs 03-15-2022 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 947180)
HMM not sure of this...but I would probably do it

TRADE IDEA:
#Texans Receive:
•3 1st Round Draft Picks
•Andrus Peat
•Taysom Hill
•2 3rd Round Draft Picks

#Saints Receive:
•Deshaun Watson
•Brandin Cooks

I really don't think anybody wants Cooks back. Better off signing Landry. Thomas, Landry, and Callaway would be a damn good WR 1-3.

TheKillerBs 03-15-2022 07:31 AM

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I kinda feel like it's Watson or bust, at this point. If we try to get him and fail, I think Jameis signs elsewhere or jacks up his price. I do think a deal is doable here, but we'd have to bite the bullet and trade some stuff that we may not want to trade. Ultimately, though, I think it's worth it.

I say this purely from a football standpoint, not a legal or moral standpoint.

Lord_Saint83 03-15-2022 08:20 AM

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I hear he’s talking to Cleveland today. This kinda has that OBJ/Suh feel about it. You know where you want to play already. Just resign Jameis, get Jarvis, and draft a speedster, a o-lineman, and possibly a tight end. And the offense will roll

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 947180)
HMM not sure of this...but I would probably do it

TRADE IDEA:
#Texans Receive:
•3 1st Round Draft Picks
•Andrus Peat
•Taysom Hill
•2 3rd Round Draft Picks

#Saints Receive:
•Deshaun Watson
•Brandin Cooks

Peat's contract has been restructured. There's no way we can absorb the cap hit with any player restructured this offseason.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 947187)
I hear he’s talking to Cleveland today. This kinda has that OBJ/Suh feel about it. You know where you want to play already. Just resign Jameis, get Jarvis, and draft a speedster, a o-lineman, and possibly a tight end. And the offense will roll

That's the way I see it, too, LS83.

Lord_Saint83 03-15-2022 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947192)
That's the way I see it, too, LS83.


That asking price for Watson is too high and with the civil suits and possible 6 plus games suspension, which will happen and you want to trade the farm for that? Don’t get me wrong he’s damn good but that’s a kings ransom

K Major 03-15-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 947150)
Three firsts, a third and Ruiz is basically what Underhill was suggesting.

I wouldn't rule out the name Davenport being mentioned in that "trade" scenario as well. He's young, talented but often injured.

Houston is willing to trade, however you will have to give up a good player & picks if you want Watson on your roster.

It is what it is.

saintfan 03-15-2022 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947196)
I wouldn't rule out the name Davenport being mentioned in that "trade" scenario as well. He's young, talented but often injured.

Houston is willing to trade, however you will have to give up a good player & picks if you want Watson on your roster.

It is what it is.

I read somewhere that Davenport would be somebody they'd want. We're talking about a franchise QB. I'd hate it but I wouldn't hate it.

K Major 03-15-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 947197)
I read somewhere that Davenport would be somebody they'd want. We're talking about a franchise QB. I'd hate it but I wouldn't hate it.

Understood and acknowledged 100 % :bng:

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 09:42 AM

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saintfan 03-15-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947203)

Maybe you could start an "I only want Jameis otherwise I'll look stupid" thread... :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 09:53 AM

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Sigler's not pleased with this possibility. :D But he has a point.


Edit: He just posted this a bit ago.


saintfan 03-15-2022 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947206)
Sigler's not pleased with this possibility. :D But he has a point.

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...39477763792916

Edit: He just posted this a bit ago.

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...39859453816845

If you're so concerned about his legal situation, then why weren't you advocating for Kamara's outright release rather that celebrating his restructure, which, as you have noted ad nauseum makes him untradeable?

Answer: You're a hypocrite and you have no spine little speedo...

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/2489121536/hF49A8472/spine

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 10:28 AM

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Another good point. This would possibly give the Saints the inside edge versus Carolina and Cleveland.


saintfan 03-15-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947211)
Another good point. This would possibly give the Saints the inside edge versus Carolina and Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/Jeff_Nowak/statu...53864271806465

For it or against it? Against it unless it happens, then for it. :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 10:43 AM

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A new player in the fray.


saintfan 03-15-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947215)

Whaddaya think speedo? Should ANY team go after Watson, given his legal troubles and all, you know.

Atlanta just restructured Ryan's contract, so it would be impossible to trade him. Right speedo? Right?

:rolleyes:

TheOak 03-15-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 947181)
First, I think you have to sell him on the idea of NOLA. Once he is considering, then you have to have that conversation, have you learned anything about putting yourself in bad situations.

We need to get it done

So you are of the mind that after the Houston Texans owners coaches and lawyers, HPD, FBI, a Grand Jury, and Deann his mama there is something left to be said or asked? He is accused publicly of giving unwanted money-shots lol, I am surprised his mom didn't already bury him.

I am of the mind you protect the club contractually as best as you can with a ton of conduct verbiage then after that it is what it is, you roll your dice and take what ever it becomes.

As far as for selling him on anything, he has already rejected all but Saints and Panthers. I'd book a meeting, if he shows, he is considering. He isn't coming out of college, he knows what New Orleans is. He has played against the Saints in New Orleans.

SmashMouth 03-15-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 947197)
I read somewhere that Davenport would be somebody they'd want. We're talking about a franchise QB. I'd hate it but I wouldn't hate it.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947199)
Understood and acknowledged 100 % :bng:

So..... is Davenport worth TWO numbers 1s in a trade then? Mebbe there's an opening dere?

SmashMouth 03-15-2022 11:16 AM

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TheOak 03-15-2022 11:29 AM

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F*** Tom Brady. I hope they are out of his color for his next mani/pedi.

saintfan 03-15-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 947219)
So..... is Davenport worth TWO numbers 1s in a trade then? Mebbe there's an opening dere?

I'm thinking 3 1s, Davenport, and they might even want CGJ. Who knows what Mickey might do.

lee909 03-15-2022 11:41 AM

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Yuk

K Major 03-15-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 947224)
I'm thinking 3 1s, Davenport, and they might even want CGJ. Who knows what Mickey might do.

Man I hope not (CGJ).

He's a vital component to the defense.

saintfan 03-15-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947227)
Man I hope not (CGJ).

He's a vital component to the defense.

Agreed.

SaintGnome 03-15-2022 11:54 AM

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I can't believe we're not the front runners here. He basically wanted out of Houston because they were a poorly run losing franchise, right? Why would he want to go to ATL or Carolina which are pretty much the same. Us then Cleveland who is trending up.

Lord_Saint83 03-15-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 947233)
I can't believe we're not the front runners here. He basically wanted out of Houston because they were a poorly run losing franchise, right? Why would he want to go to ATL or Carolina which are pretty much the same. Us then Cleveland who is trending up.



Now the niners have put their name in it now too. Watch we miss out on him and Jameis


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