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AsylumGuido 02-08-2023 10:36 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-08-2023 10:46 AM

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Rugby Saint II 02-08-2023 11:33 AM

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If our coaches are so crappy why does everybody want to poach them?

AsylumGuido 02-08-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969362)
If our coaches are so crappy why does everybody want to poach them?

Uh, because they aren't as crappy as some people claim. ;)

Speaking of coaches ...


K Major 02-08-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969362)
If our coaches are so crappy why does everybody want to poach them?

These coaches are making business decisions & some (Zach S) are getting promotions/better opportunities.

K Major 02-08-2023 12:57 PM

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Report: Saints hire former Cardinals defensive backs coach Marcus Robertson

Another former "assistant" from the Dennis Allen Oakland Raider days :rolleyes:

Allen is either gonna sink or swim in 2023.

SmashMouth 02-08-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969362)
If our coaches are so crappy why does everybody want to poach them?

Only SP wants them, save one coach.

SmashMouth 02-08-2023 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969365)
Uh, because they aren't as crappy as some people claim. ;)

Speaking of coaches ...

https://twitter.com/JohnJHendrix/sta...73883620352000

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969372)
Report: Saints hire former Cardinals defensive backs coach Marcus Robertson

Another former "assistant" from the Dennis Allen Oakland Raider days :rolleyes:

Allen is either gonna sink or swim in 2023.


DA getting his old band together. Will it matter? :confused:

K Major 02-08-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969374)
https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...72411813957633

DA getting his old band together. Will it matter? :confused:

https://giphy.com/clips/studiosorigi...JzBF3aSgMcRkdt


:p


https://media0.giphy.com/media/THJ2a...giphy.gif&ct=g

SmashMouth 02-08-2023 01:53 PM

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Should the Saints hire this dude?


Also, why would he ever leave KC for a lateral move?

halloween 65 02-08-2023 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969372)
Report: Saints hire former Cardinals defensive backs coach Marcus Robertson

Another former "assistant" from the Dennis Allen Oakland Raider days :rolleyes:

Allen is either gonna sink or swim in 2023.

I see the last bubbles coming up from the water. Blup, blup, blup.................

K Major 02-08-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969386)
Should the Saints hire this dude?

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/statu...03887590776836

Also, why would he ever leave KC for a lateral move?

Is it really Mahomes, Kelce, or Andy Reid making KC "shine"?

I recall LeSean McCoy stating that Eric B isn't a leader of men. Maybe he's not a good interviewee?

Who knows :confused:.

SmashMouth 02-08-2023 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969397)
Is it really Mahomes, Kelce, or Andy Reid making KC "shine"?

I recall LeSean McCoy stating that Eric B isn't a leader of men. Maybe he's not a good interviewee?

Who knows :confused:.

Exactly ... One could also argue something similar for SP and Brees.

What's Eric B's track record sans Mahomes? Maybe that's why he needs to try another team in order to move up to HC.

AsylumGuido 02-08-2023 06:32 PM

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SmashMouth 02-08-2023 09:22 PM

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SmashMouth 02-09-2023 10:28 PM

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AsylumGuido 02-11-2023 10:11 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-11-2023 03:23 PM

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Interesting chart listing key front office and coaching positions for all 32 franchises.


The Meat Guy 02-13-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 968236)
Well, there goes all the good coaches. We’re really gonna suck next year.

You don't wanna know what SP said about that. :doh:

SmashMouth 02-13-2023 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969397)
Is it really Mahomes, Kelce, or Andy Reid making KC "shine"?

I recall LeSean McCoy stating that Eric B isn't a leader of men. Maybe he's not a good interviewee?

Who knows :confused:.

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969404)
Exactly ... One could also argue something similar for SP and Brees.

What's Eric B's track record sans Mahomes? Maybe that's why he needs to try another team in order to move up to HC.


Andy Reid?

K Major 02-13-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969617)

Reid is a BAD man.

But damn, Patrick is a generational talent @ QB.

He’s not done either 🏆.

SmashMouth 02-14-2023 01:19 PM

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Jeff Saturday 1-6-0 (.143)
Matt Eberflus 3-13-0 (.188)
Hue Jackson 11-44-1 (.205)
David Culley 4-13-0 (.235)
Nathaniel Hackett 4-11–0 (.267)
Dennis Allen 15-38-0 (.283)
Matt Rhule 11-27-0 (.289)
Joe Judge 10-23-0 (.303)
Matt Patricia 13-29-1 (.314)
Josh McDaniels 17-28-0 (.378)
Dan Campbell 16-28-1 (.367)
Romeo Crennel 32-63-0 (.337)
Greg Schiano 11-21-0 (.344)
Raheem Morris 21-38-0 (.356)
Adam Gase 32-48-0 (.400)


Am I reading this correctly with DA's winning percentage ... .283? 2 8 - 3

K Major 02-14-2023 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969702)
Jeff Saturday 1-6-0 (.143)
Matt Eberflus 3-13-0 (.188)
Hue Jackson 11-44-1 (.205)
David Culley 4-13-0 (.235)
Nathaniel Hackett 4-11–0 (.267)
Dennis Allen 15-38-0 (.283)
Matt Rhule 11-27-0 (.289)
Joe Judge 10-23-0 (.303)
Matt Patricia 13-29-1 (.314)
Josh McDaniels 17-28-0 (.378)
Dan Campbell 16-28-1 (.367)
Romeo Crennel 32-63-0 (.337)
Greg Schiano 11-21-0 (.344)
Raheem Morris 21-38-0 (.356)
Adam Gase 32-48-0 (.400)


Am I reading this correctly with DA's winning percentage ... .283? 2. 8. 3

That is the lowest percentage of any NFC South coach. But let's revisit this one more season :(...

https://media4.giphy.com/media/kwCLw...giphy.gif&ct=g

SmashMouth 02-14-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969702)
Jeff Saturday 1-6-0 (.143)
Matt Eberflus 3-13-0 (.188)
Hue Jackson 11-44-1 (.205)
David Culley 4-13-0 (.235)
Nathaniel Hackett 4-11–0 (.267)
Dennis Allen 15-38-0 (.283)
Matt Rhule 11-27-0 (.289)
Joe Judge 10-23-0 (.303)
Matt Patricia 13-29-1 (.314)
Josh McDaniels 17-28-0 (.378)
Dan Campbell 16-28-1 (.367)
Romeo Crennel 32-63-0 (.337)
Greg Schiano 11-21-0 (.344)
Raheem Morris 21-38-0 (.356)
Adam Gase 32-48-0 (.400)


Am I reading this correctly with DA's winning percentage ... .283? 2 8 - 3

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969704)
That is the lowest percentage of any NFC South coach. But let's revisit this one more season :(...

https://media4.giphy.com/media/kwCLw...giphy.gif&ct=g

Is the fact that he is from Atlanta have anything to do with this?

K Major 02-14-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969719)
Is the fact that he is from Atlanta have anything to do with this?

I think DA claims Texas as home.

He went to Bell (down the street from me) High out in Hurst.

AsylumGuido 02-15-2023 09:02 AM

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Our newest coach has been added. The Strief replacement.


AsylumGuido 02-15-2023 11:42 AM

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In depth bio on all five new Saints coaches here. Includes Joe Woods.


AsylumGuido 02-15-2023 11:47 AM

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saintsfan1976 02-15-2023 01:03 PM

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Need more help on offense.

I hope to see more "minds" brought in to work with Carmichael.

Rugby Saint II 02-15-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 969790)
Need more help on offense.

I hope to see more "minds" brought in to work with Carmichael.

I'm afraid it will be next year before we get some fresh faces and input. We'll see.

AsylumGuido 02-15-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969814)
I'm afraid it will be next year before we get some fresh faces and input. We'll see.

Yup. After we win the Super Bowl all of our coaches are going to get snatched up. ;)

vpheughan 02-16-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969619)
Reid is a BAD man.

But damn, Patrick is a generational talent @ QB.

He’s not done either 🏆.

Once again it makes you wonder? Is it the Coach, The QB and Skill Players? A combination of both? The Chiefs "new" #10 is a faster and cheaper Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs have the winning combination of a GREAT GM and a GOOD COACH.

That same Coach made it to the SB once with the Eagles and lost.

I firmly believe Sean Payton stuck around last season to prove to himself and others he could indeed "Win" with a QB other than Brees. After all Teddy went 5 - 0 & Taysom Hill has a winning record.

SmashMouth 02-16-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 969827)
Once again it makes you wonder? Is it the Coach, The QB and Skill Players? A combination of both? The Chiefs "new" #10 is a faster and cheaper Tyreek Hill. The Chiefs have the winning combination of a GREAT GM and a GOOD COACH.

That same Coach made it to the SB once with the Eagles and lost.

I firmly believe Sean Payton stuck around last season to prove to himself and others he could indeed "Win" with a QB other than Brees. After all Teddy went 5 - 0 & Taysom Hill has a winning record.

Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not .

SmashMouth 02-16-2023 11:12 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-16-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969828)
Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not .

How realistic was it for anyone to find us a replacement for Brees? The man is going to be a first ballot hall of famer. It may take a couple of decades to find anyone that some would consider a replacement. We just need to draft one every year even if to serve as a practice squad filler/camp body until we get lucky.

Rugby Saint II 02-16-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969828)
Yet the presumed QB whisperer was unable to whisper us a replacement for Brees. His attempts feel not just incomplete but half hearted sometimes, even though they are not .

We have to remember that Drew Brees did not become a Hall of Famer until he met Sean Payton. San Diego had already drafted his replacement before he injured his shoulder. Another thing to consider is that the Saints never used a high draft pick on a quarterback and the quarterbacks they had were lacking the tools to be successful. He did get the most out of Taysom Hill.

AsylumGuido 02-16-2023 12:51 PM

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SmashMouth 02-16-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969838)
We have to remember that Drew Brees did not become a Hall of Famer until he met Sean Payton. San Diego had already drafted his replacement before he injured his shoulder. Another thing to consider is that the Saints never used a high draft pick on a quarterback and the quarterbacks they had were lacking the tools to be successful. He did get the most out of Taysom Hill.

Interesting reminder. How is it even remotely possible that the Chargers were able to evaluate good enough to draft a damn good QB like what they got?

AsylumGuido 02-16-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969843)
Interesting reminder. How is it even remotely possible that the Chargers were able to evaluate good enough to draft a damn good QB like what they got?

They got lucky. Although, they were wanting an excuse to insert Philip Rivers the whole time he was there. Brees was solid, but was never great with the Chargers. Although, they didn't draft Rivers. They drafted Eli Manning and he refused to play for them so the Giants drafted Rivers and they traded.

I feel drafting a QB is always luck ... good or bad. Bad far and away more often than good. Nobody can tell for certain how any college QB will translate to the NFL game. If they claim they can then they're lying.

AsylumGuido 02-16-2023 04:57 PM

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Another of our supposedly horrendous coaches is drawing interest. Go figure.



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