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Word is out the ship is sinking ?!?

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They couldn't have been to bad, Rivers was a good qb. and Eli won 2 Superbowls. That looks solid to me and not luck. They have a really good qb. now, was that luck?

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Is that what you are wishing for, Smash? Damn. :(

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Not at all ... But we now see rumors of TB landing Carr.

And no one wants our OC. And no one wants Eric Bieniemy also. Are they equivalent as OCs?

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Rumors are nothing more than hacks looking for clicks. You're smart enough to know that for sure. And no one wants Bieniemy and Carmichael as head coach because of the perception that Reid and Payton were running the whole show. They are basically the same. They both need to prove themselves before they'll get the interest.

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YAWN...

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Of course. Not demoting and/or firing Pete Carmichael after the 2022 season is gonna cost LD Bell (Dennis A) his job in 2023. Watch.

And ZERO guarantees DCarr signs with New Orleans. Aging vets, salary cap issues & our stud RB is gonna sit for some games.

Brace yourself. It could get ugly in NOLA this season.

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Payton can't talk to Pete. It would be a lateral move. Not unless Loomis allows it and there's no reason why he should.

I'd like to see what Carmichael can do with a decent QB and a healthy offensive line and a coaching staff not all left over from Payton's reign. Don't forget, when Allen took over he had to keep all of Payton's staff.

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YAWN...

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Curry knows where the better future is.

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:popcorn:

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:popcorn:

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Well, Eric is finally getting out of the shadow of Reid and Patrick.

Sources: Commanders finalize the deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC

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Sink or swim time.

Something tells me he was counseled once or twice on making a move like this. I did see a tweet that it was unfair and even made comparisons to McVey and others. But is it really unfair ? Pete C isn't garnering similar interests . Pete C in fact rejected some sort of promotion with the Saints last year. Maybe some guys know they're not material for other opportunities.

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It's no wonder that Pete Carmichael is garnishing no interest outside of the New Orleans Saints. Without Sean Payton his limitations were obvious. The Saints played better when he finally started calling plays that the media and fans were screaming for toward the end of the season, but was still lethargic. In his role under Sean Payton he did very well but seems to be in over his head now.

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There would be a ton of NFL offensive coordinators that would be in over their heads while fielding a backup QB, starting three backup offensive linemen (including a backup to a backup), and missing three of his top WR's (Thomas, Landry, and Harty) for the vast majority of the season. Just saying.

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YAWN...

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So, are all the good coaches gone now? I miss Dan Dalrymple. jk

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Refer to post #41

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Like Dennis Allen, Carmichael is also in over his head. Although, when he called plays previously he was still calling plays for a team built by Sean Payton. If I remember correctly he did not want to be offensive coordinator last year and had to be talked into it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Allen told Pete Carmichael to play not to lose. Just keep doing what you're doing.:doh:

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I humbly believe you remember incorrectly, Rugs. I believe I have heard a few others make the same mistake. That's probably where you got the misinformation. It was head coach that he wasn't interest in pursuing. That's what I read from a couple of beat writers. Underhill or Duncan, perhaps. At no point did he ever indicate he didn't want to return to the OC job. In fact, that was likely the whole reason why he wasn't interested in head coaching position. He knows his niche.

Let's not forget that the new change in the Rooney rule in 2021 required coordinator jobs to have minority interviews, as well. Two exterior and one interior minority candidates.

With a new head coach Carmichael basically went back through the interview process under the new rules. That may be where some of the confusion took place.

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"Just keep doing what you're doing."

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Don't worry buddy. They are going to keep doing what they're doing. Win or lose they have already made up their mind. I guess we'll get some fresh coaches next year after The Purge.

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We've just replaced at least 80% of our coaches this year. Where you been, Rugs? LOL!

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If we repeat last year there will be further purging.

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Sink or swim year for DA. Looks ominous, but I truly hope and pray it's not. Praying that the new blood at coaching has some kind of positive on the team.

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All a matter of perspective. If one looks for and expects anything and everything that could possibly go wrong anything can appear ominous. You've got the glass half full persons and those expecting the glass to end up on the floor shattered into a million pieces. :D I'll happily remain in the former category.

:bng:

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The good news for the Saints is that the NFC South is probably going to be the worst division in football in 2023.

Trask (Tampa) is an unknown, Carolina needs a QB & Desmond Ridder (Falcons) may not be the long term answer.

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I keep thinking that we're going to have another crappy season because of the concerns about player depth and whether the coaching and play calling will improve. Although, we could still win the NFC South and make the playoffs again. Possibly but not probably. There is a lot of gloom and doom on the board right now but I'm going to start looking at this the way that you are. Who knows? Those new coaches might actually help influence Dennis Allen's strategies.

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So jameis can now lead us to the NFC South crown? :doh:

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One could argue, convincingly, that it couldn't get worse than last season with all of the key injuries. I cannot imagine 2023 being anything but better with whatever additions we bring in via free agency and the draft. The near complete overhaul of the coaching staff could have a positive effect, as well.

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He's better than almost all of the free agent QB's out there right now.

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Arguably ... And under contract too .

Precisely why the play is to play Jameis or/and Taysom and draft Hooker.

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I like it. Although, if Jameis Winston can get back to the form he had under Sean Payton before his injury that would be okay with me as long as they draft Hendon Hooker. I hope that we are able to win this season for a couple of reasons. One is that I am a DieHard New Orleans Saints fan. The second reason is that I don't want to stunt Hendon Hooker's growth and development with a new system next year if this one doesn't work out. I have my doubts but I've got my fingers crossed.

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