Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 981211)

Well this thread aged well…

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 982059)

Bump ...

It's time to relieve Pete Carmichael of his play calling duties.

Time for the organization to let go of yesteryear.

Allen should be next.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 982113)

Same tendencies offensively, every single week.

Now you have Underhill, writers and former players (Lance M) calling you out ... Dennis either makes a change (demotion or fire), or he'll go down in flames with Pete.

This guy calls plays like it's 2011-2012 and Brees is still under center.

Argubly the worst (Canada is equally bad) playcaller in the league.

If they go up to Foxboro next Sunday and stink it up ... oh boy.

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 982117)

Apparently Carmichael did not learn a thing from Payton. What was he doing for all those years? As for Allen he's good at defense not so much as HC material. It's frustrating because of all the talent they have on both sides of the ball. As for Carr I knew he would not be the answer. He looks uncomfortable. I don't see a future for this team at this time and I'm not getting any younger.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 967754)

Let's talk about coaches. There needs to be substantial shake up in the team direction and who's taking us there. Who should we keep and who's on the cutting block? This is what I found after a quick look at their bios. I did not list assistant coaches but feel free to discuss them too.


Offense:

Dennis Allen. Head coach. Allen had another abysmal season as a head coach after failing with the Raiders in his first attempt. He's a good DC but he's in way over his head as a Head coach.

Pete Carmichael. Offensive Coordinator. Carmichael's job security is gone after 14 seasons as OC, mostly under Sean Payton.

Ronald Curry. Passing Game Coordinator/Quarterbacks coach. Curry is considered a top offensive young mind who has been in the NFL 17 seasons.

Dan Roushar. Roushar is the run game coordinator/tight ends coach. He's been with the Saints for 9 years. He made Juwan Johnson, a converted UDFA wideout, our best receiving TE since Jeremy Shockey.

Joel Thomas. Running backs coach. Thomas has been the Saints running backs coach for seven seasons. I have to credit him for some of AK's success.

Kodi Burns. WR's coach. Burns has been here one year and has done an amazing job with developing Olave and Shaheed rookie receivers into deep threats. He comes from UT with experience developing players.

Doug Marrone. Offensive line coach. Marrone did well in his first stint with New Orleans but has struggled since his return. He helped to finally developed Ruiz last season.

Defense:

Ryan Nielsen: Co-Defensive Coordinator/Defensive line. Nielsen has been in charge of the D-line for six years and is highly sought after for vacant coaching spots.

Kris Richard. Co-defensive Coordinator/Secondary coach. Richard joined the Saints in 2021 and helped solidify the back end. We are widely respected for our secondary with a lot of the credit due to him. He is also sought after this coaching cycle.

Peter Guinta. Senior defensive assistant. 43 year coaching veteran with three Super bowl Championships.

Michael Hodges. Linebackers coach. He has developed Pete Werner and Ellis into starters and the room is solid.

Special Teams:

Darren Rizzi. Special teams have been up and down in New Orleans since 2019, but mostly up. He was the Saints assistant head coach in 2022 as well.


This was almost a poll but I changes my mind.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 982383)

What are the options to replace PC? Curry? Gruden? Something has to give and it doesn't need to be the Saints fans giving up.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 983325)

How much longer will DA hitch his wagon with Pete as OC?

You wanna bench Penning … fine. Bench Peat .. I understand.

But at what point do you start getting rid of coaches? Or demotions?

Pete is holding this offense back as a signal caller.

We can’t score tds. I’m not even including the Pats win. They’re awful.

Something has gotta change with the play calling.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 983325)

How much longer will DA hitch his wagon with Pete as OC?

You wanna bench Penning … fine. Bench Peat .. I understand.

But at what point do you start getting rid of coaches? Or demotions?

Pete is holding this offense back as a signal caller.

We can’t score tds. I’m not even including the Pats win. They’re awful.

Something has gotta change with the play calling.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 984190)

We need a new Head Coach.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 984191)

You need some new material hoss.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 984193)

Okay Rosie. Here goes: We have so much talent on this team, it’s just that our quarterback is azzwipe, our receivers run stale routes, Taysom doesn’t get utilized properly, Kamara doesn’t get utilized properly, our kicker misses field goals, our offensive line is weak, our vaunted defense gets gassed when they’re not getting lit up by less than stellar opponents, we commit too many penalties, the refs are against us, we don’t wear proper cleats, and we lack the intensity, consistency and discipline to win games, or at least make them interesting… and there’s that Pete Carmichael fella…

There. Is that better? We need a new Head Coach.

How’s this one… Tell Loomis to take a hike. More to your liking?

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 984206)

:beatnik: We need a new Head Coach.... boldly printed on the paper bag hood! :beatnik:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 984207)

“Yeah but it’s not duh eighties…”

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 984217)

That's right. Saints fans who want to wear a bag should wear plastic bags and discover that they don't bi*** much after a few breaths...or lack of........

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 984221)

A plastic bag won’t do much damage while we’re snoring in it.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 984278)

Let's find out! Do you know any Atlanta fans that we could experiment on?
:hott:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 984287)

You mean the leaders of our Division? *cough…