Evaluating Coaches

Rugby Saint II · 02-21-2023, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I've been doing more thinking about Carmichael. He was intricately involved in the play design phase for the last decade and a half. Sure, it's easier to design plays when it's Brees out there to execute them, but I doubt he's forgotten everything about that aspect of the job. I see his problem this past season as being far too conservative in the actual playcalling. Looking back over the years there have been occasions where he had those duties for one reason or another and was surprisingly aggressive and quite effective in making his calls.

What has changed? Is it perhaps the responsibility is too large? Is he concerned about screwing up? Did he not trust the QB's or the line? Did Allen, as was mentioned earlier, tell him to be conservative?

Like Dennis Allen, Carmichael is also in over his head. Although, when he called plays previously he was still calling plays for a team built by Sean Payton. If I remember correctly he did not want to be offensive coordinator last year and had to be talked into it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Allen told Pete Carmichael to play not to lose. Just keep doing what you're doing.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Like Dennis Allen, Carmichael is also in over his head. Although, when he called plays previously he was still calling plays for a team built by Sean Payton. If I remember correctly he did not want to be offensive coordinator last year and had to be talked into it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Allen told Pete Carmichael to play not to lose. Just keep doing what you're doing.

I humbly believe you remember incorrectly, Rugs. I believe I have heard a few others make the same mistake. That's probably where you got the misinformation. It was head coach that he wasn't interest in pursuing. That's what I read from a couple of beat writers. Underhill or Duncan, perhaps. At no point did he ever indicate he didn't want to return to the OC job. In fact, that was likely the whole reason why he wasn't interested in head coaching position. He knows his niche.

Let's not forget that the new change in the Rooney rule in 2021 required coordinator jobs to have minority interviews, as well. Two exterior and one interior minority candidates.

With a new head coach Carmichael basically went back through the interview process under the new rules. That may be where some of the confusion took place.

02-21-2023, 03:35 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I've been doing more thinking about Carmichael. He was intricately involved in the play design phase for the last decade and a half. Sure, it's easier to design plays when it's Brees out there to execute them, but I doubt he's forgotten everything about that aspect of the job. I see his problem this past season as being far too conservative in the actual playcalling. Looking back over the years there have been occasions where he had those duties for one reason or another and was surprisingly aggressive and quite effective in making his calls. What has changed? Is it perhaps the responsibility is too large? Is he concerned about screwing up? Did he not trust the QB's or the line? Did Allen, as was mentioned earlier, tell him to be conservative? Like Dennis Allen, Carmichael is also in over his head. Although, when he called plays previously he was still calling plays for a team built by Sean Payton. If I remember correctly he did not want to be offensive coordinator last year and had to be talked into it. I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Allen told Pete Carmichael to play not to lose. Just keep doing what you're doing. Sinner likes this.

02-21-2023, 04:02 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Like Dennis Allen, Carmichael is also in over his head. Although, when he called plays previously he was still calling plays for a team built by Sean Payton. If I remember correctly he did not want to be offensive coordinator last year and had to be talked into it. I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis Allen told Pete Carmichael to play not to lose. Just keep doing what you're doing. I humbly believe you remember incorrectly, Rugs. I believe I have heard a few others make the same mistake. That's probably where you got the misinformation. It was head coach that he wasn't interest in pursuing. That's what I read from a couple of beat writers. Underhill or Duncan, perhaps. At no point did he ever indicate he didn't want to return to the OC job. In fact, that was likely the whole reason why he wasn't interested in head coaching position. He knows his niche. Let's not forget that the new change in the Rooney rule in 2021 required coordinator jobs to have minority interviews, as well. Two exterior and one interior minority candidates. With a new head coach Carmichael basically went back through the interview process under the new rules. That may be where some of the confusion took place. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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