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IGNORERS GONNA PEEK.

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Trading Lattimore would trigger a $45 million dead cap hit because we have restructured his salary 3 consecutive years pushing money out to 2028 that will all come due if he is traded.

Lattimore is an aging corner in NFL terms and has missed 50% of his games over the last two years. His value is very low. Even his PFF scores have not been elite for years. The script is to scare fans with the thought of losing him and then rejoice in keeping him with excitement of an amazing season where he will finally be healthy, to pull the wool over the fact that we are stuck paying him way too much and his trade value would be a mid round pick at most if we pay his salary.

I know Lattimore turning 28 this year sounds young but not for a corner it isn't. He will be going into his 8th NFL season. Look at what happened to other elite corners in their 6th-10th NFL season, most become unreliable and many drop off a cliff in performance. And although Lattimore's rookie season was elite, he never reached quite that peak again and has never made an all-pro team. He is a second tier very good corner who has started missing half of games and getting old.

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Breakdown and skillset of Fuaga.

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This kind of gives you an indication of the success rate of QB's drafted in the 1st round. There's absolutely no guarantees. Five QB's taken in the top 15 and none are surefire franchise QB's.

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Latest CBS mock draft

Rd1 - Bowers (TE)
Rd2 - Kneeland (DE)

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That's my guy at #14

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Interesting they have Brian Thomas going 17 and Fuaga 19. Decisions, decisions!

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This might be controversial, but I think Andrus Peat played fairly well at left tackle. He certainly played better there than he did at guard.

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I'm probably in the minority, but I don't get the impression Caleb Williams will be a very special NFL QB.

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I've seen his problem as not being able to stay healthy, much like Payton Turner. I thought he's been solid when playing regularly.

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I don't know about being in the minority, but I heard someone recently on NFL Radio saying they didn't see him as anything more than an average QB. Can't remember who it was, but I do remember being surprised because I do know it was someone that I felt really knew his stuff.

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I like him and Fashanu. I’d be happy with either.

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Naw, I'm there too.

His arm talent is exceptional but that "hero ball" mentality will lead to pick 6's (+ turnovers) in the NFL. As well all know, athleticsm alone won't be enough at this level. Not to mention he doesn't have a lot of experience playing under center.

We shall see though.

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OL is a must have. DE is a close second. We have to address the trenches early and often. Although, if Bock Bowers is there at #14 then that's the direction I'm going to give Carr the perfect weapon for Kubiak's new system. Bowers and Johnson would give them a nice two tight end set, which they ran a lot in Frisco. Throw in Foster Moreau and that's a promising position group.

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Trading down ? .... hmmm.

And Triplett said it best ... "this is an OLD team".

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Even though there will be a lot of talent available at that pick, I’m not totally against it. It would be nice if we could get a proven player of need as part of that trade down package.

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Just fun thinking here, but wouldn’t it be sweet if we packaged our 14 pick with lattimore to move down the the later part of the first round this year and that teams next years first. Would that be too lopsided for a team to even consider?

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Oregon’s Brandon Dorlus is an intriguing option for day two selection.
A 6’ 3”- 290 lb versatile defensive lineman who lined up at several different spots at Oregon. A little on the shorter side, but he has a good blend of strength and athleticism.
I was watching some of his highlights and he looks very quick and powerful. I like the versatility to be able to ply DE or slide inside

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The Falcons would consider it because their GM comes from the Mickey Loomis tree. Lattimore has minimal value because he has become unreliable and less elite and is aging, but teams will sometimes trade next years 1st to move up to 14. With the Falcons we might have to take their 2nd rounder and a 1st and 2nd next year.

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Brian Thomas Jr. - WR
LSU

Does Klint add (rd2) another weapon on offense?

And we know how well LSU WRs transition to the NFL.

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As long as this Thomas plays with heart and purpose, and doesn't complain about his toe or sprain; as opposed to that other dude that wears number 13. :beatnik:

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We don't need another WR. We need oline and pass rush. If we want another receiver, find the next AT Perry in the 6th or the next Rasheed Shaheed as a rookie free agent.

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I think it's between the ears.

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Of course you do.

Saints could certainly use a big-bodied WR who can also BLOCK & fill the Thomas void & I wouldn’t rule this position in Free Agency either.

New OC in town with a different mindset for the offense.

Competition is needed and necessary in NOLA.

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AT Perry isn't a great blocker. Neither is Olave or Sheed. We need a big bodied, contested catch, blocking, physical WR and I wouldn't be surprised to see it addressed early in the draft.

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And we need a new QB. And a new Head Coach. And a new General Manager. And a new Owner (not necessarily in that order).

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Nothing controvesial about that at all. To be honest it would be hard for him to play worse than what he did at the guard position. But at LT he actually looked serviceable.

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Receivers dont win championships. See Kansas City.

Also I think AT Perry is a better blocker than Trevor Penning. And blocking is more crucial in Pennings position. So I would go with oline.

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Any thoughts on the other McCaffery?

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Two guys from SF are free agents.

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For what it's worth.

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Wow we are meeting with everyone at the positions we are definitely not going to draft. I guess lets go for the hat trick and meet with some Centers while we are at it. The only way I could see drafting a corner making sense would be if we traded Adebo for a first round pick in order to attempt to pull some sort of Diggs-Jefferson coup at corner. Otherwise we are good with Adebo, Taylor, and Yiadom even if Lattimore is traded.

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:rolleyes:

If you understood the evaluation process you'd know you talk to every player you'd consider because they could come around later. For example, that's exactly what New England did with Mike Vrabel. They knew they couldn't draft him given what they already had but told him when his first contract was up they like to be his next team. And that's exactly what happened.

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Id be shocked if Fashanu or Alt fell to us, but that should absolutely be our pick if either one is there. I believe there will be a few appealing tackles that’ll be there at the back half of the first and that gave me a thought…
A scenario that would be cool is if Alt or Fashanu isn’t there at 14 then trade back to around the 20-23 area which would also require their second round pick as well. Trade Lattimore for a second( I don’t think we’ll get a first due to his durability issues). Then we’d have a first, three seconds, three fifths, a sixth, and a seventh. We could also use those later picks to move up in the third if desired, then we’d have five picks in the first three rounds. We could pick up some nice talent with that. I know it’s not probable due to needing a team interested in both situations and a GM that doesn’t trade down,but not impossible.

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Northern Iowa DT Khristian Boyd

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