Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak

saintsfan1976 · 07-24-2024, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Salient points. This promises to be a yawn-worthy, if not a cringe-worthy season. But hey… “let’s see what happens”.

Players seem to be reenergized and positive about the changes Kubiak brings.

Obviously nothing matters until we see execution on gamedays but so far this feels anything but "same old, same old".

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Players seem to be reenergized and positive about the changes Kubiak brings.

Obviously nothing matters until we see execution on gamedays but so far this feels anything but "same old, same old".

We have a dormant and impotent HEAD COACH and a DUD as our QB. No matter how you “coordinate” all of the other reenergized and positive pieces, our key pieces just AINT got “it”.

saintsfan1976 · 07-24-2024, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

We have a dormant and impotent HEAD COACH and a DUD as our QB. No matter how you “coordinate” all of the other reenergized and positive pieces, our key pieces just AINT got “it”.

I'd accuse him of complacency had he not changed the entire offensive staff.

Carr had a rough year, no doubt. How he responds remains to be seen but I'm betting on improvement and more wins than last season.

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'd accuse him of complacency had he not changed the entire offensive staff.

Carr had a rough year, no doubt. How he responds remains to be seen but I'm betting on improvement and more wins than last season.

Dennis Allen is a dud. And Derek Carr is Raider curbside trash for a reason.

AsylumGuido · 07-24-2024, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'd accuse him of complacency had he not changed the entire offensive staff.

Carr had a rough year, no doubt. How he responds remains to be seen but I'm betting on improvement and more wins than last season.

I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing.

I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line.

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing.

I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line.

Luckily for you and you alone, you’ll have another whole year to post your stats and make more excuses for our lackluster leader****.

mapcow · 07-24-2024, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing.

I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line.

he had a rough year, because he is in over his head. OBVIOUSLY, the Raiders knew this and dumped him. like the Saints should have done with the prima donna, and now with the thug.

saintsfan1976 · 07-24-2024, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing.

I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line.

Stats don't tell the entire story. Carr by his own admission had a down year.

Personally, I'm moving on from 2023 and willing to see how he responds in '24 with a new staff.

Let's hope the O line is improved.

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

he had a rough year, because he is in over his head. OBVIOUSLY, the Raiders knew this and dumped him. like the Saints should have done with the prima donna, and now with the thug.

Clearly, Divine Lady Gayle has found a formula and a fanbase in folks like Quido, who accept and pay for a consistently disappointing product. She and upper Management stay rich, incompetent and impotent coaches stay rich, Players get shuffled around and get paid (and stay rich) to show up and barely perform at a mediocre level.

The Head Coach is a DUD. The Quarterback AINT got it. But like Quido says,
“Winning a championship is not the goal.” So as long as there are still enough fans willing to fork over their hard earned money (and enthusiasm) to support this product, that’s exactly what the rest of us will have to endure.

AsylumGuido · 07-24-2024, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats don't tell the entire story. Carr by his own admission had a down year.

Personally, I'm moving on from 2023 and willing to see how he responds in '24 with a new staff.

Let's hope the O line is improved.

Definitely not what he wanted based on the glowing numbers he has put up in the past, but most of that was not on him. All in all he performed better than any Saints QB not named Brees going back for decades. We have been spoiled by the great one.

And I'm with you on the new staff.

07-24-2024, 08:25 AM	#61
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by Sinner Salient points. This promises to be a yawn-worthy, if not a cringe-worthy season. But hey… “let’s see what happens”. Players seem to be reenergized and positive about the changes Kubiak brings. Obviously nothing matters until we see execution on gamedays but so far this feels anything but "same old, same old". leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Players seem to be reenergized and positive about the changes Kubiak brings. Obviously nothing matters until we see execution on gamedays but so far this feels anything but "same old, same old". We have a dormant and impotent HEAD COACH and a DUD as our QB. No matter how you “coordinate” all of the other reenergized and positive pieces, our key pieces just AINT got “it”.
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07-24-2024, 09:22 AM	#63
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by Sinner We have a dormant and impotent HEAD COACH and a DUD as our QB. No matter how you “coordinate” all of the other reenergized and positive pieces, our key pieces just AINT got “it”. I'd accuse him of complacency had he not changed the entire offensive staff. Carr had a rough year, no doubt. How he responds remains to be seen but I'm betting on improvement and more wins than last season.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'd accuse him of complacency had he not changed the entire offensive staff. Carr had a rough year, no doubt. How he responds remains to be seen but I'm betting on improvement and more wins than last season. Dennis Allen is a dud. And Derek Carr is Raider curbside trash for a reason.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'd accuse him of complacency had he not changed the entire offensive staff. Carr had a rough year, no doubt. How he responds remains to be seen but I'm betting on improvement and more wins than last season. I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing. I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing. I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line. Luckily for you and you alone, you’ll have another whole year to post your stats and make more excuses for our lackluster leader****. K Major likes this.
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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing. I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line. he had a rough year, because he is in over his head. OBVIOUSLY, the Raiders knew this and dumped him. like the Saints should have done with the prima donna, and now with the thug. Sinner likes this.
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07-24-2024, 10:26 AM	#68
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm curious as to why people feel Carr had a rough year? He had the third best passer rating (97.7) of his career, 10th best in the league. He also had the 6th best completion percentage (68.4%) in the league. He was 10th in the league in TD's (25), and had the 3rd lowest interception rate with only eight picks. 11th in the league in first downs passing. I think he did his job as best he could given what Carmichael gave him to work with and the disrepair of the offensive line. Stats don't tell the entire story. Carr by his own admission had a down year. Personally, I'm moving on from 2023 and willing to see how he responds in '24 with a new staff. Let's hope the O line is improved. leilung likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by mapcow he had a rough year, because he is in over his head. OBVIOUSLY, the Raiders knew this and dumped him. like the Saints should have done with the prima donna, and now with the thug. Clearly, Divine Lady Gayle has found a formula and a fanbase in folks like Quido, who accept and pay for a consistently disappointing product. She and upper Management stay rich, incompetent and impotent coaches stay rich, Players get shuffled around and get paid (and stay rich) to show up and barely perform at a mediocre level. The Head Coach is a DUD. The Quarterback AINT got it. But like Quido says, “Winning a championship is not the goal.” So as long as there are still enough fans willing to fork over their hard earned money (and enthusiasm) to support this product, that’s exactly what the rest of us will have to endure.
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07-24-2024, 11:43 AM	#70
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats don't tell the entire story. Carr by his own admission had a down year. Personally, I'm moving on from 2023 and willing to see how he responds in '24 with a new staff. Let's hope the O line is improved. Definitely not what he wanted based on the glowing numbers he has put up in the past, but most of that was not on him. All in all he performed better than any Saints QB not named Brees going back for decades. We have been spoiled by the great one. And I'm with you on the new staff.