Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak

AsylumGuido · 09-12-2024, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Thats a pretty good bit to listen to.

Yeah, isn't it!

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2024, 10:54 AM

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2024, 12:52 PM

BakoSaint · 10-21-2024, 01:24 PM

In the end, we would probably have the same or better record with Pete Carmichael. And thats not because he is the better OC, its because we had the personnel to run his system. This should serve as a lesson why you dont try to 'wizard' your way out of the salary cap. When you do, most of your roster is locked in because cutting or trading any starter leads to a massive dead cap hit from years of restructuring, that make players cost more to cut than to extend, and living at max cap there is not much space to bring in new players. Thus, when we brought in an OC with a totally different system, we couldn't bring in any players suited to that system. And in a physical smash mouth new system, unsuited players meant injuries.

In the end I think we have two choices. Either do a full rebuild, or bring back Pete Carmichael as OC and Ryan Nielsen as HC and run the same system forever, so we can brag about beating the salary cap without facing one of the main drawbacks.

Sinner · 10-21-2024, 04:05 PM

Boy, this thread didn’t age well…

neugey · 10-21-2024, 04:19 PM

I'm still bought into what Kubiak does with the motion and running game. But he needs to improve in the passing game design and playcalling. He has a ways to go before he could hang with Ben Johnson, Kevin O'Connell or Mike McDaniel. I don't want Carmichael back here unless he is strictly making bagel and coffee runs.

saintsfan1976 · 10-21-2024, 06:57 PM

But what if his new HC is Ben Johnson? Now there's a nice pairing.

K Major · 10-22-2024, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Thus, when we brought in an OC with a totally different system, we couldn't bring in any players suited to that system. And in a physical smash mouth new system, unsuited players meant injuries.

This right here ^^. There is something going on with regards to the Saints practices, temperature, load management & medical in general.

IMO this is more than just "bad luck" or "snake bit", there has got to be an underlying cause, could be an organizational thing.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by Crusader Thats a pretty good bit to listen to. Yeah, isn't it!

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,134	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak In the end, we would probably have the same or better record with Pete Carmichael. And thats not because he is the better OC, its because we had the personnel to run his system. This should serve as a lesson why you dont try to 'wizard' your way out of the salary cap. When you do, most of your roster is locked in because cutting or trading any starter leads to a massive dead cap hit from years of restructuring, that make players cost more to cut than to extend, and living at max cap there is not much space to bring in new players. Thus, when we brought in an OC with a totally different system, we couldn't bring in any players suited to that system. And in a physical smash mouth new system, unsuited players meant injuries. In the end I think we have two choices. Either do a full rebuild, or bring back Pete Carmichael as OC and Ryan Nielsen as HC and run the same system forever, so we can brag about beating the salary cap without facing one of the main drawbacks. Sinner likes this.
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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak I'm still bought into what Kubiak does with the motion and running game. But he needs to improve in the passing game design and playcalling. He has a ways to go before he could hang with Ben Johnson, Kevin O'Connell or Mike McDaniel. I don't want Carmichael back here unless he is strictly making bagel and coffee runs. bobdog86 likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak Originally Posted by BakoSaint Thus, when we brought in an OC with a totally different system, we couldn't bring in any players suited to that system. And in a physical smash mouth new system, unsuited players meant injuries. This right here ^^. There is something going on with regards to the Saints practices, temperature, load management & medical in general. IMO this is more than just "bad luck" or "snake bit", there has got to be an underlying cause, could be an organizational thing. Sinner likes this.