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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The main thing that I don't understand about all this is that dog fighting has been around for a very, very long time, I've never participated in a dog fight, but I've known about dog fighting ever since I was ...

 
 
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:07 AM   #11
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Re: Does Vick deserve shot at redemption?

The main thing that I don't understand about all this is that dog fighting has been around for a very, very long time, I've never participated in a dog fight, but I've known about dog fighting ever since I was young. When I was a kid growing up in New Orleans playing in the playgrounds all over the city it was a common sight to see a large group of guys at one end of the park placing bets on dogs on big chains fighting, and when one dog got an advantage they would pull the dogs apart. I remember as a youngster being afraid because they didn't have any cages or gates or anything, they just fought them right there in the open. Like I said, this was when I was a kid, and to be honest with you, I never knew it was a federal charge. Thank god as a kid I found something wrong with fighting dogs or I would've been suck into that world also. They say Vick is one of the biggest ring leaders in dog fighting, I kind of find that hard to believe, because there are a lot of people involved in that world probably about 85 to 90 percent of the cities in this country have some type of dog fighting activity in them and it crosses all social, economical and racial landscapes. I mean I'm talking about the late 70's, early to mid 80's and you use to see black guys, white guys, latino guys, you'd see guys in pickup trucks, on bikes, in cars, some regular old cars and then you'd see like Cadillacs, corvettes, jaguars, benz's, hell man I remember seeing this white Bentley that use to be park on the other side of the street from Easton/Comiskey Park(one of the downtown neighborhood parks known for it's dog fighting activities). I remember the cars because it was all me and my friends were interested in at that time, nice cars and there were a lot of them around the parks when they used to fight the dogs. It was a very big deal at those times, and I'm more than sure Vick was exposed to that world when he was a kid and like many before him and many after him was pulled into that world, like I said before, THANK GOD it wasn't something I wanted to get involved with even as a kid. When I talk to a lot of people about the Vick situation, the ones that didn't know about dog fighting found it disgusting and deplorable. And the people who had some knowledge of dog fighting wasn't to surprised at the news. Now what I did find appalling is the way they said they killed the dogs after a dog lost a fight, now if true that's really some sick $$$$. I said if true, because when somebody is offered a federal deal, a lot of things those particular low life's let fly out of they mouths is usually lies and fabrications to make their situations with the feds that much better. Now I'm not condoning anything that he's charged with because like I said that's dementedly sick, but I think if someone is that sick, coldblooded, violent, and heartless to shoot, hang, and drown dogs with no feelings what so ever, is mentally f-up. Don't you think someone that sadistic would have showed some kind of sign, some type of violent behavior, especially playing the most violent sport in the world. Now I'm not saying he did it or he didn't, I don't know the guy personally, but everybody that know him personally and spend time around him said that that don't sound like his personality. I know a lot of people want to see Vick executed for his crime, but some of those things said just don't seem right to me, I definitely know that you can't trust a rat who when involved in a crime everything is all good, but the minute they get busted they'll sell their mother down the river for a sweet deal. The odd thing about Vick case is everybody is on Vick about the dogs except the feds. The feds could care less about the cruelty to animal charges, they got him on gambling, traveling across state lines with dogs to bet and participate in illegal dog fighting activities. Whatever his sentence is he should just do the time for his crime, get his mind together, realize that he blew a once in a life time dream come true life and know that he will never ever achieve that again. I think if he stays healthy, get his mind together, beg for forgiveness, make amends, and do a lot of charity work, then and only then I think he should be allowed to assume his career in the NFL.

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