Does Vick deserve shot at redemption?

ScottF · 08-26-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

So long as agree we that it's not a 'right', as some posters and the NAACP will have us believe. And I'm not so sure Oakland or Dallas (especially Dallas) would sign this evil and twisted man. I lot will depend on what he does between now and then. We'll see.

And I'll tell you this. If there is a team crazy enough to do this - Vick was never a good QB anyway - can you imagine the backlash? I think it's far from a given that some team will give him another shot.

Dallas has never been afraid to keep or go after controversial players: Longley, Hollywood Henderson, Deion, TO- but you do make a good point about backlash. No conservative city would take him, but who knows with the Niners, Skins, Raiders, Dolphins, etc.

As for his talent as a QB, I did and still believe Vick is a phenomenal talent.
He has been called a coach-killer, and unable to read a D. The fact is, with a guy like this you build your game plan around him, you don't have him run your game plan (which obviously he couldn't do)
Look at what the Longhorns, and then Titans, did with Young. Knapp (the Falcons OC) couldn't or wouldn't get away from the west coast offense even though there were two glaring problems: Vick couldn't exexcute it, and his receivers have been the worst in the league for 3 years now. Add a weak, Wayne Gandy-led O-line, and suddenly you're 8-8 again.

In the world of what-ifs, who knows where Vick would be right now if he ever had parental guidance, a mentor, or decent coach.
But, we live in the real world and so must he. Tomorrow at his hearing I hope he gets 24+ months and the max fine.

08-26-2007, 01:52 PM	#34
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Does Vick deserve shot at redemption? Originally Posted by saintfan So long as agree we that it's not a 'right', as some posters and the NAACP will have us believe. And I'm not so sure Oakland or Dallas (especially Dallas) would sign this evil and twisted man. I lot will depend on what he does between now and then. We'll see. And I'll tell you this. If there is a team crazy enough to do this - Vick was never a good QB anyway - can you imagine the backlash? I think it's far from a given that some team will give him another shot. Dallas has never been afraid to keep or go after controversial players: Longley, Hollywood Henderson, Deion, TO- but you do make a good point about backlash. No conservative city would take him, but who knows with the Niners, Skins, Raiders, Dolphins, etc. As for his talent as a QB, I did and still believe Vick is a phenomenal talent. He has been called a coach-killer, and unable to read a D. The fact is, with a guy like this you build your game plan around him, you don't have him run your game plan (which obviously he couldn't do) Look at what the Longhorns, and then Titans, did with Young. Knapp (the Falcons OC) couldn't or wouldn't get away from the west coast offense even though there were two glaring problems: Vick couldn't exexcute it, and his receivers have been the worst in the league for 3 years now. Add a weak, Wayne Gandy-led O-line, and suddenly you're 8-8 again. In the world of what-ifs, who knows where Vick would be right now if he ever had parental guidance, a mentor, or decent coach. But, we live in the real world and so must he. Tomorrow at his hearing I hope he gets 24+ months and the max fine.