Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!!

Papa Voodoo · 04-25-2008, 03:24 PM

Why didn't we offer Brown and #10 to the Dolphins as well if he was expendable? Last week it seemed the Fins were trying to get out of the 1 spot so they may have taken the offer more easily than the Rams. Then we could get whomever we liked.

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 03:25 PM

There is this word that is floated around a good bit called -development-. Maybe some of you heard of such a thing. You get a player and you take some time and let him develop for when you do need him.

I am totally ok with this because our line looked suspect with him in there at times. Its about time we realize that it doesn't matter if we score 30 a game that if our opponets score 40 -we lose.

We need to build a big bad D if we want to win a SB period.

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Why didn't we offer Brown and #10 to the Dolphins as well if he was expendable? Last week it seemed the Fins were trying to get out of the 1 spot so they may have taken the offer more easily than the Rams. Then we could get whomever we liked.

its simple -value. You don't negociate with a team that isn't going to pick your guy, thats stupid. You go to a team that is 'likely' to draft him. Saves you value and a couple of duckets.

I don't think the Rams will draft Dorsey but I think its like they could.

Papa Voodoo · 04-25-2008, 04:24 PM

I hear ya. They did pick an OT though so they may have gone for the deal and that would put us in a position to get Dorsey at 1 and there wouldn't be any doubt if we'd get him. If he's as good as he's scouted to be then what's a few mill?

rjakapeanut · 04-25-2008, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

then why are we offering him in a trade if he is our starting left tackle..

because unlike almost any other team in the NFL, we have the luxury of being able to easily replace our left tackle with a more than adequate substitute.

papz · 04-25-2008, 04:32 PM

Easily... more than adequate...

Let's not fool ourselves.

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

I hear ya. They did pick an OT though so they may have gone for the deal and that would put us in a position to get Dorsey at 1 and there wouldn't be any doubt if we'd get him. If he's as good as he's scouted to be then what's a few mill?

...a few mill adds up quick! Especially when they perform to that level and then some, they'll want even more. See see the reason you don't trade with the Fins is because word was out they were in negociations with Long. They aren't taking 'your' guy, there is no sense to trade with him if your guy is still going to be on the board. You go deal with the next guy who might want or may consider him Dorsey.

I don't feel a team should 'over reach' for a player, when you know he is going to be on the board.

Saints are offering them a great deal I think it would be hard to pass up. They are getting a Starter on the OL as well as a DE that they need at 10 in Harvey who can come in and start. Anytime you can walk away from a deal with 2 starters I say it win.

rjakapeanut · 04-25-2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Easily... more than adequate...

Let's not fool ourselves.

You're underestimated Strief. he's an animal.

papz · 04-25-2008, 05:18 PM

I'm definitely not underestimating Strief. I remember the day he was drafted and I was excited about the pick. He's filled in and did an admirable job a couple of years ago for Brown... but let's not kid ourselves and say he can easily replace our Pro Bowl LT. People can call Brown overrated all they want, but he's arguably our best lineman and an excellent pass protector. Yes he has his mental lapses with his false starts, but let's not undervalue how valuable he is to our line... to our franchise. Losing him would definitely hurt the strength of our offense... Drew Brees and our passing game.

jergensl · 04-25-2008, 05:21 PM

trading a proven pro bowl left tackle for a guy who has yet to take a snap in the nfl is plain idiotic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-25-2008, 03:24 PM	#241
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! Why didn't we offer Brown and #10 to the Dolphins as well if he was expendable? Last week it seemed the Fins were trying to get out of the 1 spot so they may have taken the offer more easily than the Rams. Then we could get whomever we liked.

04-25-2008, 03:25 PM	#242
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! There is this word that is floated around a good bit called -development-. Maybe some of you heard of such a thing. You get a player and you take some time and let him develop for when you do need him. I am totally ok with this because our line looked suspect with him in there at times. Its about time we realize that it doesn't matter if we score 30 a game that if our opponets score 40 -we lose. We need to build a big bad D if we want to win a SB period.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Why didn't we offer Brown and #10 to the Dolphins as well if he was expendable? Last week it seemed the Fins were trying to get out of the 1 spot so they may have taken the offer more easily than the Rams. Then we could get whomever we liked. its simple -value. You don't negociate with a team that isn't going to pick your guy, thats stupid. You go to a team that is 'likely' to draft him. Saves you value and a couple of duckets. I don't think the Rams will draft Dorsey but I think its like they could.

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! I hear ya. They did pick an OT though so they may have gone for the deal and that would put us in a position to get Dorsey at 1 and there wouldn't be any doubt if we'd get him. If he's as good as he's scouted to be then what's a few mill?

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo I hear ya. They did pick an OT though so they may have gone for the deal and that would put us in a position to get Dorsey at 1 and there wouldn't be any doubt if we'd get him. If he's as good as he's scouted to be then what's a few mill? ...a few mill adds up quick! Especially when they perform to that level and then some, they'll want even more. See see the reason you don't trade with the Fins is because word was out they were in negociations with Long. They aren't taking 'your' guy, there is no sense to trade with him if your guy is still going to be on the board. You go deal with the next guy who might want or may consider him Dorsey. I don't feel a team should 'over reach' for a player, when you know he is going to be on the board. Saints are offering them a great deal I think it would be hard to pass up. They are getting a Starter on the OL as well as a DE that they need at 10 in Harvey who can come in and start. Anytime you can walk away from a deal with 2 starters I say it win.
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rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! Originally Posted by papz Easily... more than adequate... Let's not fool ourselves. You're underestimated Strief. he's an animal.
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04-25-2008, 05:18 PM	#249
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! I'm definitely not underestimating Strief. I remember the day he was drafted and I was excited about the pick. He's filled in and did an admirable job a couple of years ago for Brown... but let's not kid ourselves and say he can easily replace our Pro Bowl LT. People can call Brown overrated all they want, but he's arguably our best lineman and an excellent pass protector. Yes he has his mental lapses with his false starts, but let's not undervalue how valuable he is to our line... to our franchise. Losing him would definitely hurt the strength of our offense... Drew Brees and our passing game.
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jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	Re: Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!! trading a proven pro bowl left tackle for a guy who has yet to take a snap in the nfl is plain idiotic!!!!!!!!!!!!!