2010 NFL Draft

Saint_LB · 03-14-2010, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

.....we dont have a LT if we get rid of brown.....

I think there is one Mr. Bushrod that would say...

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...and we only won a SB without him!

jeanpierre · 03-14-2010, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

there is no reason to trade brown at all.....we just dont have the kind of depth to do something that stupid

***Newsflash***

Jammal Brown Out for Season...Saints Win Superbowl

Saints didn't have him all season and yet still had depth and adequate play...

Look, he's about to become a FA and we can't afford to tie up that much money in a natural RT playing LT...

which is why you trade 'em and get either a younger, elite LT in R1 or pick up one in the draft or FA with a more acceptable contract...

and are you going to sign Brown, an older injured player, tying up funds that you'll need to retain someone like Carl Nicks?

and Drew Brees has shown that the quarterback is as important to a low sack total statistic as the Left Tackle (Right-handed Quarterback)...

CantonLegend · 03-14-2010, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I think there is one Mr. Bushrod that would say...
...and we only won a SB without him!

that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

in fact......bushrod gave up a sack to an injured dwight freeney who couldnt even walk right, let alone rush an edge correctly

we went from the least sacked team in the league when we threw more than any other team, to 22 sacks on a team that threw the ball only the 10th most

that is a significant increase and yes, id rather have a 5 yard penalty due to false start in one game than have drew get hit twice in that same game

we may only have a RT playing LT, but that LT is a pro bowler....hes a proven run blocker.....hes one of the 10 best LTs in the league.....and he protects the most valuable player in the league

are you willing to rest drews health in the hands of bushrod? im not and drafting a tackle is always risky

you want us to waste our first round pick this year on a LT? then what? trade up and pick a DT or LB? then we are out of picks

its stupid to waste a pick on a LT when we have a proven LT and have much much much more pressing needs

in fact.......id venture to say that we are completely set at QB, G, and T......but everything else could be considered a solid draft pick

OldMaid · 03-14-2010, 07:37 PM

jeanpierre

,too funny about good teams reloading.
CantonLegend

, thanks for that info about Saints scounts, what it seems they go for and where they go to often pick. Interesting,what you said.
homer

,I agree with you about Loomis and co.

jeanpierre · 03-15-2010, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT...

with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT...

please read the entire argument...

Saint_LB · 03-15-2010, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor?

CantonLegend · 03-15-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT...

with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT...

please read the entire argument...

i read the entire argument....i commented on the part that i wanted to comment on

brown is worthy of whatever contract he wants.....bushrod proved that for him this season......monetarily we may not be able to afford brown.....but talent wise we cant afford to lose brown

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor?

i want this team to be great for a long time.....getting rid of a pro bowl tackle does not make us better and you cant deny that

there isnt a single thing you could say that would make bushrod better than brown....not money, not talent, not wins......we didnt win because of bushrod...in fact.....we didnt go undefeated because of bushrod

do you really think brown would've let demarcus ware beat us? lmao

bushrod had nothing to do with our success.....in fact, our offense was hindered by bushrod.....constantly having to slide protection to that side.....constantly having to stack that side of the line so that bushrod didnt look silly out there

what part of brown is an elite tackle dont you understand?

jeanpierre · 03-18-2010, 12:56 AM

Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him...

Sound familiar?

Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time...

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him...

Sound familiar?

Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time...

hutchinson left

nicks did not

in fact......nicks is just beginning to reach the prime of his career.....he will help brown a lot

there isnt a single thing that bushrod does better than brown and there isnt a single tackle in this draft that looks like they could protect drew's blind side

and why would we pick a LT when we need players at DT, DE, and LB? no reason to trade a player that we need for an unproven draft pick

jeanpierre · 04-03-2010, 12:40 PM

JeanPierre's 2010 NFL Draft Wish List

R1 Brian Price, DT, UCLA or Jerry Hughes, TCU

R2 Toby Gerhardt, RB, Stanford or Koa Misi, OLB/DE, Utah

R3 Torell Troup, NT, UCF or Dorrin Dickerson, TE, Pitt

R4 Eric Olsen, C, UND or Austen Lane, DE, Murray State

R5 D’Anthony Smith, DT, LaTech or Marshall Newhouse, OL, TCU

R6 E.J. Wilson, DE, UNC or Derek Hardman, OT, EKU

R7 Nate Collins, DT, UVA or Larry Hart, OLB, CAU

03-14-2010, 08:46 AM	#222
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend there is no reason to trade brown at all.....we just dont have the kind of depth to do something that stupid *Newsflash* Jammal Brown Out for Season...Saints Win Superbowl Saints didn't have him all season and yet still had depth and adequate play... Look, he's about to become a FA and we can't afford to tie up that much money in a natural RT playing LT... which is why you trade 'em and get either a younger, elite LT in R1 or pick up one in the draft or FA with a more acceptable contract... and are you going to sign Brown, an older injured player, tying up funds that you'll need to retain someone like Carl Nicks? and Drew Brees has shown that the quarterback is as important to a low sack total statistic as the Left Tackle (Right-handed Quarterback)...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

03-14-2010, 06:20 PM	#223
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by Saint_LB I think there is one Mr. Bushrod that would say... ...and we only won a SB without him! that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no in fact......bushrod gave up a sack to an injured dwight freeney who couldnt even walk right, let alone rush an edge correctly we went from the least sacked team in the league when we threw more than any other team, to 22 sacks on a team that threw the ball only the 10th most that is a significant increase and yes, id rather have a 5 yard penalty due to false start in one game than have drew get hit twice in that same game we may only have a RT playing LT, but that LT is a pro bowler....hes a proven run blocker.....hes one of the 10 best LTs in the league.....and he protects the most valuable player in the league are you willing to rest drews health in the hands of bushrod? im not and drafting a tackle is always risky you want us to waste our first round pick this year on a LT? then what? trade up and pick a DT or LB? then we are out of picks its stupid to waste a pick on a LT when we have a proven LT and have much much much more pressing needs in fact.......id venture to say that we are completely set at QB, G, and T......but everything else could be considered a solid draft pick
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-14-2010, 07:37 PM	#224
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2010 NFL Draft jeanpierre,too funny about good teams reloading. CantonLegend, thanks for that info about Saints scounts, what it seems they go for and where they go to often pick. Interesting,what you said. homer,I agree with you about Loomis and co.
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03-15-2010, 09:09 AM	#225
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT... with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT... please read the entire argument...
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03-15-2010, 10:43 AM	#226
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor?
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03-15-2010, 02:54 PM	#227
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT... with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT... please read the entire argument... i read the entire argument....i commented on the part that i wanted to comment on brown is worthy of whatever contract he wants.....bushrod proved that for him this season......monetarily we may not be able to afford brown.....but talent wise we cant afford to lose brown Originally Posted by Saint_LB No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor? i want this team to be great for a long time.....getting rid of a pro bowl tackle does not make us better and you cant deny that there isnt a single thing you could say that would make bushrod better than brown....not money, not talent, not wins......we didnt win because of bushrod...in fact.....we didnt go undefeated because of bushrod do you really think brown would've let demarcus ware beat us? lmao bushrod had nothing to do with our success.....in fact, our offense was hindered by bushrod.....constantly having to slide protection to that side.....constantly having to stack that side of the line so that bushrod didnt look silly out there what part of brown is an elite tackle dont you understand?
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-18-2010, 12:56 AM	#228
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him... Sound familiar? Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time...

03-18-2010, 11:40 AM	#229
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him... Sound familiar? Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time... hutchinson left nicks did not in fact......nicks is just beginning to reach the prime of his career.....he will help brown a lot there isnt a single thing that bushrod does better than brown and there isnt a single tackle in this draft that looks like they could protect drew's blind side and why would we pick a LT when we need players at DT, DE, and LB? no reason to trade a player that we need for an unproven draft pick

04-03-2010, 12:40 PM	#230
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft JeanPierre's 2010 NFL Draft Wish List R1 Brian Price, DT, UCLA or Jerry Hughes, TCU R2 Toby Gerhardt, RB, Stanford or Koa Misi, OLB/DE, Utah R3 Torell Troup, NT, UCF or Dorrin Dickerson, TE, Pitt R4 Eric Olsen, C, UND or Austen Lane, DE, Murray State R5 D’Anthony Smith, DT, LaTech or Marshall Newhouse, OL, TCU R6 E.J. Wilson, DE, UNC or Derek Hardman, OT, EKU R7 Nate Collins, DT, UVA or Larry Hart, OLB, CAU

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