2010 NFL Draft

exile · 03-03-2010, 07:47 PM

First round pick is a moot issue because we are going to sign Ronnie Brown and hand our pick to the Dolphins. Cha Ching!

SmashMouth · 03-03-2010, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i dont know if anyone can imagine us going through the entire draft without addressing defensive tackle

i think our first 2 or 3 picks will all be DT and DE.....im not sure that LB is as huge of a need as the down lineman positions but im sure they will address that in the draft too

i also believe we will address an offensive position somewhere in the draft. maybe TE or WR in rounds 3 or 4

Well... it is a presumably deep draft at DT and DE ... let's take advantage of it. Plus another LB or two.

jeanpierre · 03-04-2010, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by exile

First round pick is a moot issue because we are going to sign Ronnie Brown and hand our pick to the Dolphins. Cha Ching!

Maybe Ronnie can play the first 8 games then Reggie can come in for the second 8 games...

Many are forgetting Larry Johnson may be available via trade; we just couldn't sign 'em...

BRSaintsFan · 03-04-2010, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight

i see him at his playing weight and see his strength

even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3

now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field

shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys

im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark.

however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT?

I would not mind Cody at all. I dont think it will happen as someone ahead of us who runs the 3-4 predominantly will value him at NT too much. In the event that he falls, I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4. I agree that Cody would be a big boost to our run defense. He would likely command a double team and would free up Ellis to penetrate the gaps and the LBs to be free to roam. However, he does not have the ability to get to the QB so would need to be taken out on passing downs in favor of Hargove (which again, I am totally for because I think a fresh Hargrove in a pass rush situation is great). Its a good move by him to drop some weight before the Combine, but his overall conditioning could be a concern. Also, he has been scouted as not always giving 100% (sometimes due to fatigue late in games). At 32, picking up a premier run stopping DT, although he need not be on the field to rush the passer, is a good pick IMO, but I would also be entertaining that offer from the Chiefs.

jeanpierre · 03-06-2010, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

...I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4...

So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade?

saintsfan1976 · 03-06-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade?

I'm Pro-Dorsey. We have ammunition, so it could happen.

Okay Smash, draft an LB or TWO?? Nah, I could see us taking one early tho especially if any of the top 4 or 5 are there at 32.

Biggest holes in our defense?
DL
S
CB depth
OLB

jeanpierre · 03-06-2010, 09:39 AM

Some value in R2 if they are there...

Corey Wootton, DE, Northwestern
Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri
Daryl Washington, OLB, TCU

jeanpierre · 03-06-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm Pro-Dorsey. We have ammunition, so it could happen.

Okay Smash, draft an LB or TWO?? Nah, I could see us taking one early tho especially if any of the top 4 or 5 are there at 32.

Biggest holes in our defense?
DL
S
CB depth
OLB

stockman311 · 03-07-2010, 05:06 PM

Canton still can't figure out that we run a 4-3 defense and that Cody is best fit at NT in a 3-4. He'll keep arguing, making nonsensical points, and generally be misinformed about all things football if you keep replying to him.

My advice is to just wait until the draft, and when Cody's fat ass is still sitting there when we pick at number 32 and we pass then and only then will this be resolved. I think the Saints personnel people know best so if they pass on him then I will feel pretty vindicated in this argument.

jeanpierre · 03-07-2010, 09:56 PM

Well, depending what we do in FA, it looks like passing on Clay Matthews or Brian Cushing last season may have been ill-advised (I know it's still early on the OSU guy and in the end, I've warmed to the pick)...

But I'm not sure who you sign at Linebacker at this point; reminds me of the situation the past two years of when we were trying to resurrect the career of Dan Morgan?!?

Linebackers in the draft...or do we just trade some picks...again?!?

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03-03-2010, 10:07 PM	#162
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend i dont know if anyone can imagine us going through the entire draft without addressing defensive tackle i think our first 2 or 3 picks will all be DT and DE.....im not sure that LB is as huge of a need as the down lineman positions but im sure they will address that in the draft too i also believe we will address an offensive position somewhere in the draft. maybe TE or WR in rounds 3 or 4 Well... it is a presumably deep draft at DT and DE ... let's take advantage of it. Plus another LB or two.

03-04-2010, 12:59 AM	#163
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile First round pick is a moot issue because we are going to sign Ronnie Brown and hand our pick to the Dolphins. Cha Ching! Maybe Ronnie can play the first 8 games then Reggie can come in for the second 8 games... Many are forgetting Larry Johnson may be available via trade; we just couldn't sign 'em...

03-04-2010, 10:31 AM	#164
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight i see him at his playing weight and see his strength even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3 now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark. however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT? I would not mind Cody at all. I dont think it will happen as someone ahead of us who runs the 3-4 predominantly will value him at NT too much. In the event that he falls, I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4. I agree that Cody would be a big boost to our run defense. He would likely command a double team and would free up Ellis to penetrate the gaps and the LBs to be free to roam. However, he does not have the ability to get to the QB so would need to be taken out on passing downs in favor of Hargove (which again, I am totally for because I think a fresh Hargrove in a pass rush situation is great). Its a good move by him to drop some weight before the Combine, but his overall conditioning could be a concern. Also, he has been scouted as not always giving 100% (sometimes due to fatigue late in games). At 32, picking up a premier run stopping DT, although he need not be on the field to rush the passer, is a good pick IMO, but I would also be entertaining that offer from the Chiefs.

03-06-2010, 08:58 AM	#165
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03-06-2010, 09:38 AM	#166
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade? I'm Pro-Dorsey. We have ammunition, so it could happen. Okay Smash, draft an LB or TWO?? Nah, I could see us taking one early tho especially if any of the top 4 or 5 are there at 32. Biggest holes in our defense? DL S CB depth OLB

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Some value in R2 if they are there... Corey Wootton, DE, Northwestern Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri Daryl Washington, OLB, TCU

03-06-2010, 01:39 PM	#168
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm Pro-Dorsey. We have ammunition, so it could happen. Okay Smash, draft an LB or TWO?? Nah, I could see us taking one early tho especially if any of the top 4 or 5 are there at 32. Biggest holes in our defense? DL S CB depth OLB

03-07-2010, 05:06 PM	#169
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Canton still can't figure out that we run a 4-3 defense and that Cody is best fit at NT in a 3-4. He'll keep arguing, making nonsensical points, and generally be misinformed about all things football if you keep replying to him. My advice is to just wait until the draft, and when Cody's fat ass is still sitting there when we pick at number 32 and we pass then and only then will this be resolved. I think the Saints personnel people know best so if they pass on him then I will feel pretty vindicated in this argument.

03-07-2010, 09:56 PM	#170
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Well, depending what we do in FA, it looks like passing on Clay Matthews or Brian Cushing last season may have been ill-advised (I know it's still early on the OSU guy and in the end, I've warmed to the pick)... But I'm not sure who you sign at Linebacker at this point; reminds me of the situation the past two years of when we were trying to resurrect the career of Dan Morgan?!? Linebackers in the draft...or do we just trade some picks...again?!?

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