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good stuff.....still wondering why you put tennessee in the mix tho lol

i guess we are going to pick everson griffen or taylor mays

i was looking at players all around ohio tho

there arent many OSU players worth looking at this season.....but cincy has 2 guys we may look at

not to mention sean payton always looks at kent state......if i was a betting man i would still bet OSU over USC but in the first round there is definitly a higher probability based on the past that we will pick a USC guy

even if it is only 2 to 1

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another guy to keep an eye on is geno atkins

very small for an NFL DT at only 6'1" 285 lbs

plays a lot like hargrove does.......a pass rush specialist but isnt tall enough to play DE

could play 3-tech and help rush the passer but isnt the help we need in rush defense

a mid round prospect to keep an eye on

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Meachem? :D

I would guess we let Grant walk and pick a DE first round though. I still like Dunlap but he isn't going to fall and Griffen probably won't either. JPP is my hopeful.

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lol but why would you think that payton loves tennessee more than ohio if theres only been 2 picks out of tennessee in 4 years?

not big on griffen or dunlap but here is a little excerpt on carlos dunlap

WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Draft: Defensive End Rankings

of course this is only from 1 source but for all the flaming i take for wanting a talented DT with weight issues im surprised to hear someone want a player with even more of a work ethic issue

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Just to get you going. :p

I hope Dunlap does fall because if he hasn't worked hard in college he will be the greatest player in history when he decides to do so. Thanks for that link. Gives me hope he will fall.

I like Cody enough but I guess I'm gunshy from a guy named Sullivan.

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I don't care what they are saying about JaMarcus Russell. Sullivan may have been the worst pick in NFL history.

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Danno bro, I would L-O-V-E to get a R1 pick for Harper...

I would be Farmer Fran ecstatic to get a R1 pick for Harper...

Only problem is...we get better value with our 4R and 7R picks?!?

I think it's just leverage for a trade of Harper...

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hey, exile; is that your sister?

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I'd take a 1st too, but my point is he's a lot better than many thought. If he was truly the "weakest link", no way would any team give up a 1st rounder for him. Not even the Raiders are that stupid. Well thats debatable.:)

If he was truly the weak link we would bait other teams with a reasonable tender, like a 3rd rounder, or even a 2nd rounder.

If no one bites we pay him a lot of money for 1 year. You don't bait teams to sign a weak link with a 1st round tender. You typically do that because you want to keep him, or you want to encourage him to sign a long term contract.

In my opinion a 2nd round tender would have been best. If another team offers him an appropriate contract, we can match it or get a 2nd rounder in return.

The staff wants to keep him, and if they do lose him they're gonna get a 1st rounder for him.

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Shawn Knight is close; but two ones for the move to get Sullivan?!?

Haslett's move to get Sullivan reminded me of the adage "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

We traded for Sullivan; Cardinals got Calvin Pace and Bryant Johnson...D'oh

At #24, Indy took (gasp) Dallas Clark...

At #31, Raiders took (crying) Nnamdi Asomugha...

So by not trading, we could have had two of the following: Calvin Pace, Bryant Johnson, Dallas Clark, or Nnamdi Asomugha...

Further, even with the trade we could have picked one of the following: Jordan Gross, Kevin Williams (Williams DT Brothers fame), Terrell Suggs, Marcus Trufant, Ty Warren, and yes (cutting wrist) Troy Polamalu...

and he gave away La'roi Glover...

So we got rid of Glover, passed on some amazing talent, and selected Sullivan...

Haslett is the gift that keeps giving...

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why are we picking 31?

You know, I'm sitting out all the "lets pay this guy this much," or "lets let this guy go" or "Lets see what we can get for this guy" threads. And I especially dont want to participate, or even read about Reggie going anywhere.

Not to hate on that type discussion, as for some people, playing GM is part of the fun of following sports--- this is America, and thats O.K. for you to do. Its just my personal preference, that Im not into all the horse-trading, salary talk, etc. But thats just me.

I love all these guys, and want to keep them all, even Charles Grant.

But as for Draft talk, Im definitely IN. Not that I have the slightest idea what talent is coming up from the colleges.

One thing I can say--- we sure didnt get much time to focus on the draft, did we---- bruhahahahahahaha!

cuz its the SHORTEST offseason in Saints History!!!!!

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+1

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Really, even Grant huh?

That's why I'm friends with Hagan...

Bro, when you make down east Acadiana near Thibodaux; there's plenty crawfish and beer to discuss the draft; if Al Gore's Global Warming Effect ever kicks in so the crawfish will come out for supper! And I'll get my little one hooked up with the Jr. Saintsations!

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Anybody jump out at you in the combine today? (Offensive Line, TE, Specialists)

Bruce Campbell was out of the box; definitely a top ten pick...

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besides the big names?

Dorin Dickerson, Pittsburgh
Height: 6-1. Weight: 226.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
Combine 40 Time: 4.40.
Benchx225: 24. Vertical: 43. Arm: 34.

TE? Short yardage and goal line back to boot! I smell our new third down back and maybe a future situational FB/HB? I knew he was fast but he was unbielavable in the drills. I have to agree with Maylock for the first time this year. If he is there at 64 I would love to see the saints grab him. If he repeats these numbers on pro day I see him moving up into the second round out of the reach of the saints.

Dennis Pitta, BYU
Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.66.
Combine 40 Time: 4.63.
Benchx225: 27. Vertical: 34. Arm: 32 1/4.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.

read my blog on this kid. http://blackandgold.com/blogs/hagan7...ive-draft.html
He is just what the saints need at TE. He is SMART. Now he answered the big question about his athleticism. That's no longer a question. He looked great.

I would not mind if the saints took both players in the draft in rounds 2 and 3.

OC
Eric Olsen, Notre Dame
Height: 6-4. Weight: 306.
Projected 40 Time: 5.19.
Combine 40 Time: 5.22.
Benchx225: 35. Arm: 32 1/2.
Projected Round (2009): 4-5.

I know ND suxed last year but Olsen was not the reason the OL was bad. He was the only player to suit up for every game they played and play he did.

New name to watch

OT

Tony Washington, Abilene Christian
Height: 6-6. Weight: 311.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Combine 40 Time: 5.19.
Benchx225: 33. Arm: 35 1/2.
Projected Round (2010): 2-3

Ed Wang, Virginia Tech
Height: 6-5. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 4.93.
Combine 40 Time: 5.14.
Benchx225: 29. Arm: 33 3/4.
Projected Round (2010): 4-5

OG

Vladimir Ducasse, UMass
Height: 6-4. Weight: 332.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
Combine 40 Time: 5.21.
Benchx225: 29. Arm: 34 3/4.
Projected Round (2010): 2-3

Marshall Newhouse, TCU
Height: 6-4. Weight: 319.
Projected 40 Time: 5.09.
Combine 40 Time: 5.00.
Benchx225: 25. Arm: 34.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4

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If either Eric Olsen of Marshall Newhouse is there in round 4, you gotta grab him and continue the streak of the Saints stealing offensive linemen in the mid rounds...

Olsen is a beast and could play quickly where Newhouse may need a year to bulk and improve his game as well...

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QBs, RBs, WRs today at the Scouting Combine...

Watch Live

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Round 3 Candidate for the Saints > RB Joique Bell

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Joique Bell, Wayne State, 5-11, 223

nice pick up but I say he and

Charles Scott, LSU, 6-0, 234

might be around at the bottom of the 4th.

Want a screwy player to look at in say the 6th,

LaMarcus Coker, Hampton, 5-11, 205, 4.32
2008 Coker was dismissed from Tennessee after failing his fourth drug test.
He hasn't been in trouble in a long time, and appears to have turned his life around.

Love to be a fly on the wall for his interview.

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Yeah Bell looks pretty solid. The SEC RBs could all be solid players at the next level. Charles Scott, Montarrio Hardesty (my sleeper), Ben Tate and Anthony Dixon. All will be great mid-round backs.

Here is a thought. With the Saints oogling over Beanie Wells last year watch out for a RB pick at #32 to surprise. Toby Gearhardt or LeGarrette Blount?

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Toby Gearhardt - he is all over the board in pre drafts. i say bottom of the second

LeGarrette Blount - depends on interviews

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Careful with those U of Tenn players (the Tenn Paradox)...

Speaking of U of Tenn, did you see the broadjump of Montario Hardesty...

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NFL Network mentioned Ryan Matthews, Fresno State as a guy moving into the first round...Saints?

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freakin Gore!--- Im still waiting too. Man, theres so much water now at our big trapping spot in the Trinity River backwaters-- everywhere, nice & flooded, but noooo, its gotta be freezin ass cold. You know this too, if it would just warm up..... I plan on living on crawfish & crabs before long.

Hey, glad you reminded me about the Saintsations. My little redhead still doesnt hate me yet, and I think she's gonna want to dance again this year. You should have seen her last fall before the Bengals preseason game, dancing on the Fleur at midfield.

We'll find an excuse to come back to the Bayou, and Im definitely up for beer & bugs, JP!

Wow, that Hagan is a machine! How does he know all that stuff??? Wow!

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for people concerned about terrence cody's weight.....

he weighed in at 354 lbs which was just above his playing weight for the majority of the season.....he was able to drop 16 lbs in a month which means he can drop even more in an NFL mini camp

his ability and commitment to lose that weight in such a short period of time should prove that his work ethic shouldnt come in to question when evaluating this kid

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I don't like Cody, especially if we stay in a 4-3 front; I just don't like the big guys who don't have the discipline to control their weight; it tends to translate into their effort and play on the field...

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he dropped over 15 lbs in less than 30 days

i know people dont get that but its not easier for heavier people to lose weight simply because they have more weight

its actually harder

cody will play in the nfl at 350.....he had no problems controlling his weight

you guys just cant get past sullivan.....he is not sullivan....his work ethic has been proven

he pushes the pocket and creates opportunities for everyone else

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guess what defense we ran in the most famous play in saints history....guess how many down linemen we had

NFL Videos: SB XLIV Can't-Miss Play: Porter seals it

now this video......we ran the 3-4 almost exclusively. 2 of the 4 plays we ran a 4-3 were at the goalline and 1 of the plays we ran it outside of the redzone they ran right up the middle.....right at our weakness

NFL Videos: SBXLIV: Joseph Addai highlights

and last but not least....guess how many times we ran a set with 4 down linemen in this highlight.....dont guess more than 1 cuz you'll be wrong

NFL Videos: SBXLIV: Peyton Manning highlights

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SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH...

AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF...

YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER...

CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS...

PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL...

I'm just sayin...

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why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent

he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing

let me let you in on a little secret...im no little guy....nobody in my family is a little guy.....and it has never been easy for me to lose 10 lbs regardless of how hard i work out......now gaining weight for me is much much easier....im just speaking from personal experience but losing weight isnt easy for anyone....and its especially hard for bigger people because they usually arent in shape

football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? as long as they show up to play when the season starts i dont care what they looked like during the offseason

i know you're not a GM.....fwiw neither am i.....everybody has an opinion....mine just happens to be better than yours lol

also....we invested 1 draft pick in vilma.......and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4.....he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain......he is only 1 player.....if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4.....if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen.....then do that.....gregg williams knows what we need.....NOT JONATHAN VILMA.....

i really feel like thats why everybody doesnt want us to switch to the 3-4 but 1 player doesnt make a team....especially in football....vilma is crucial to our success.....but he is only 1 player......and he was mostly unhappy because the jets stunk....nobody cares what their role is when you are winning

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this thread makes me hungry.

cant wait till KFC opens.

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Don't be one of those handwriting analyst, using a keyboard in the other office that has a jammed Caps Lock key...

That's just it; to be the best you can be; to expect to have millions of dollars invested in you as an athlete (even a DT); you have to stay in shape year round...

Don't let Drew Brees hear you say that...

Canton, you're right; it's not one guy; and the personalities we have on defense, coaches included, are a collection of faster, leaner, attack types; all Cody looks to know to attack is the left side of the McDonalds menu...

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mmm. mcgriddles..

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heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight

i see him at his playing weight and see his strength

even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3

now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field

shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys

im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark.

however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT?

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lol clown

http://eggbot.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/mcgriddle.jpg

now those are some mcgriddles i could sink my teeth in to

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We came out of training camp/preseason cuts with three (3) defensive tackles...

We added as the season progressed; but we had a tenious defensive line at best which played above themselves, thankfully...

If a great players falls, you take the BPA; but you got to draft/trade to improve the front seven on defense...

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i dont know if anyone can imagine us going through the entire draft without addressing defensive tackle

i think our first 2 or 3 picks will all be DT and DE.....im not sure that LB is as huge of a need as the down lineman positions but im sure they will address that in the draft too

i also believe we will address an offensive position somewhere in the draft. maybe TE or WR in rounds 3 or 4

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And we can only hope...