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hagan loves sergio kindle

i dont know a whole lot about him but i know he played DE last season

people are looking at him as a 3-4 OLB but that might just be because he could play DE or LB and people cant make up their ****ing minds

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Canton you might like this, I'm looking around for some late round offensive lineman and really like Kyle Calloway OT Iowa, Chris Marinelli OT Stanford and Marshall Newhouse OG TCU, any thoughts? Just thought I'd throw out some names cause the Saints seem to draft o-line later in the draft

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im nervous about any of the offensive linemen from iowa. i love the big 10 linemen because they are run first and pass second. they learn correct drop steps in under center formations and learn to hold blocks longer because they arent in a spread offense. but mike iupati is a guy that is very high on several teams' boards IMO and he played right next to calloway for the majority of the season. careful watching 2 offensive linemen play together because often times 1 of them is a lot better than the other and it makes up for their inefficiencies

calloway seems to be able to play both sides so hes an interesting prospect but the places ive looked scout him more at right tackle...his arms are also a bit short for starting NFL linemen but he could be great depth should we chose to shop any of our other offensive linemen


he's huge. at 6'7" 303 he looks like he could maul anybody. i love the stanford linemen but his height may be his downfall......he plays a bit high which is why he may be projected so low in the draft. would struggle with guys who come right at him and push him off balance....nice choice tho

smart guys always have a place in the NFL and the way stanford played this season is almost a complete credit to their offensive line

ridiculously fast guy person. for how big he is he might project better to tackle......could probably play guard just as easily tho. seems to me like he could get up to the 2nd level very easily

remember the early 3rd round is where most good guards go in the draft. newhouse will likely be gone before we pick in the 3rd but an interesting prospect nonetheless

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Great point! A player like Cody is a must for us. Smith-Cody-Ellis-Hargrove, can't really run on that defensive front. We would be tough to beat. My first two picks would be Cody and Spikes.

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I agree with hagan on this one. Kindle may be the best pick in this draft.

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I agree....him or Hughes..cant go wrong

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exile and strato agree with me? i better rethink this.

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Rate Kindle how you like, but the kid will go top 12.

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That's because half the teams in the NFL run the 3-4 now, and he would be a stud in that base. It's silly to even bring his name up unless you think the Saints love him so much they are willing to trade their entire draft away to move up into the top 15.

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32. New Orleans Saints: Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
With Scott Fujita defecting for Cleveland, New Orleans' two biggest needs are now defensive end and strongside linebacker. Coincidentally, Sergio Kindle can play both.

Kindle could be utilized like fellow Longhorn Brian Orakpo was used in Washington in 2009. Depending on the situation, Kindle could drop into coverage or rush the passer from the defensive end position. I'm sure Gregg Williams would love to have someone with Kindle's versatility on the roster.

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Whoever wrote that mock draft must be high on crack. Kindle will be long gone at 32. Long gone.

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While you are probably right, every year there are a bunch of players available when we pick that many said "no way he'll be there".

I think the year we picked 17th (2007??), there were 25 players that posters said would be long gone by the time we pick.

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Yeah nevermind, not sure what I was thinking. Kindle stinks. :mrgreen:

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Hey Hagen..i know talent man...lol....Im here to tell from watching Kindel and Hughes both play here in Texas..and they are beast and will be in the NFL...im like Stockman though we might have to trade up to get either one...i would love for either one to fall to 32 and im sure the Saints would to...

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Unless they find a dead hooker, illegal aliens, or 200 lbs of Chronic in his trunk prior to the draft, he will be long gone by the time we pick at #32.

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Predraft reading mat'l...

JERRY HUGHES, DE/OLB, TCU
JAHVID BEST, RB, CALIFORNIA
BRIAN PRICE, DT, UCLA
MAURKICE POUNCEY, C, FLORIDA
CHAD JONES, S, LOUISIANA STATE
EVERSON GRIFFEN, DE, SOUTHERN CAL
COREY WOOTTON, DE, NORTHWESTERN
CHRIS COOK, CB, VIRGINIA
NATE ALLEN, FS, SOUTH FLORIDA
DARYL WASHINGTON, OLB, TCU

However, beginning to think that all this is a deep draft the Redskins should be considered as a potential trade partner to grab an impact player by moving Jamaal Brown to swap No. 1's and pick up an additonal R3 pick...

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yep the saints will have to move ahead of the falclowns to have a shot at any of the top OLB this year. The pats will definitely scoop up the leftovers after them. If we stand pat then no way will we get either.

Everson Griffen, USC?

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Not sold on the swapping #1 picks part ... maybe if they give us a number one...thusly we have two number one's.

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There's no way they trade a top five pick straight up for J Brown; that's why I said we'd have to swap picks and pick up their R3 pick (maybe R2 pick)...

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theres no way we give up brown and a #1 to move up 10 or so spots to pick a player who may not be worth it

we know brown is worth a #1.......thats been proven by his pro bowl status

we also know with him in the lineup we allow the least amount of sacks in the league.....we dont have a LT if we get rid of brown.....

there is no reason to trade brown at all.....we just dont have the kind of depth to do something that stupid

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I think there is one Mr. Bushrod that would say...



...and we only won a SB without him!

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***Newsflash***

Jammal Brown Out for Season...Saints Win Superbowl

Saints didn't have him all season and yet still had depth and adequate play...

Look, he's about to become a FA and we can't afford to tie up that much money in a natural RT playing LT...

which is why you trade 'em and get either a younger, elite LT in R1 or pick up one in the draft or FA with a more acceptable contract...

and are you going to sign Brown, an older injured player, tying up funds that you'll need to retain someone like Carl Nicks?

and Drew Brees has shown that the quarterback is as important to a low sack total statistic as the Left Tackle (Right-handed Quarterback)...

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that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

in fact......bushrod gave up a sack to an injured dwight freeney who couldnt even walk right, let alone rush an edge correctly

we went from the least sacked team in the league when we threw more than any other team, to 22 sacks on a team that threw the ball only the 10th most

that is a significant increase and yes, id rather have a 5 yard penalty due to false start in one game than have drew get hit twice in that same game

we may only have a RT playing LT, but that LT is a pro bowler....hes a proven run blocker.....hes one of the 10 best LTs in the league.....and he protects the most valuable player in the league

are you willing to rest drews health in the hands of bushrod? im not and drafting a tackle is always risky

you want us to waste our first round pick this year on a LT? then what? trade up and pick a DT or LB? then we are out of picks

its stupid to waste a pick on a LT when we have a proven LT and have much much much more pressing needs

in fact.......id venture to say that we are completely set at QB, G, and T......but everything else could be considered a solid draft pick

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jeanpierre:D,too funny about good teams reloading.
CantonLegend:D, thanks for that info about Saints scounts, what it seems they go for and where they go to often pick. Interesting,what you said.
homer:D,I agree with you about Loomis and co.

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not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT...

with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT...

please read the entire argument...

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No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor?

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i read the entire argument....i commented on the part that i wanted to comment on

brown is worthy of whatever contract he wants.....bushrod proved that for him this season......monetarily we may not be able to afford brown.....but talent wise we cant afford to lose brown

i want this team to be great for a long time.....getting rid of a pro bowl tackle does not make us better and you cant deny that

there isnt a single thing you could say that would make bushrod better than brown....not money, not talent, not wins......we didnt win because of bushrod...in fact.....we didnt go undefeated because of bushrod

do you really think brown would've let demarcus ware beat us? lmao

bushrod had nothing to do with our success.....in fact, our offense was hindered by bushrod.....constantly having to slide protection to that side.....constantly having to stack that side of the line so that bushrod didnt look silly out there

what part of brown is an elite tackle dont you understand?

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Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him...

Sound familiar?

Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time...

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hutchinson left

nicks did not

in fact......nicks is just beginning to reach the prime of his career.....he will help brown a lot

there isnt a single thing that bushrod does better than brown and there isnt a single tackle in this draft that looks like they could protect drew's blind side

and why would we pick a LT when we need players at DT, DE, and LB? no reason to trade a player that we need for an unproven draft pick

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JeanPierre's 2010 NFL Draft Wish List

R1 Brian Price, DT, UCLA or Jerry Hughes, TCU

R2 Toby Gerhardt, RB, Stanford or Koa Misi, OLB/DE, Utah

R3 Torell Troup, NT, UCF or Dorrin Dickerson, TE, Pitt

R4 Eric Olsen, C, UND or Austen Lane, DE, Murray State

R5 D’Anthony Smith, DT, LaTech or Marshall Newhouse, OL, TCU

R6 E.J. Wilson, DE, UNC or Derek Hardman, OT, EKU

R7 Nate Collins, DT, UVA or Larry Hart, OLB, CAU

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where are you getting all these picks from brother? we dont have that many selections

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You're right, we don't have a R5 pick; the Saints can say they traded a R5 pick for onside kick that helped win a Superbowl...

as far as there being twice as many names per round, I used "or" as to indicate the rated talent in those rounds that potentially could be there for the Saints to have a choice to select...

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JP are you projecting Toby Gerhardt to be the heir apparent to Heath Evans?

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thats one way of looking at it

lol yea i wasnt worried about that

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or maybe a fulltime, younger, healthier contributor; I'd dare argue that he'd be similiar to the style Deuce provided actually...

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WalterFootball.com

Round 1

32. New Orleans Saints: Brian Price, DT, UCLA
Sedrick Ellis seems completely healthy again, but the Saints still need help at defensive tackle to stop the run. Brian Price is a great value pick at No. 32; he could easily go as high as No. 21, so New Orleans is getting a very talented player who fills a big need with this selection.

Other 2010 NFL Draft Possibilities:

Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB - Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams could utilize Sergio Kindle like the Redskins used Brian Orakpo this year; Kindle would play at either strongside linebacker or defensive end depending on the situation.

Carlos Dunlap, DE - The Saints have a big need at defensive end, and based on pure physical talent, Carlos Dunlap is a bargain at No. 32.

Round 2

64. New Orleans Saints: Daryl Washington, OLB, TCU
Help is needed to stabilize a weak linebacking corps. Scott Fujita is gone, while Scott Shanle began the year well, but wore down against the run late in the season.

Darryl Washington is a heck of a steal at the bottom of Round 2; there's some talk of him being a late first-round prospect.

Pick change; previously Navorro Bowman, OLB

Round 3

95. New Orleans Saints: Austen Lane, DE, Murray State
You can never have too many pass-rushers, and with Charles Grant gone, the Saints are thin at defensive end.

Round 4

130. New Orleans Saints: Roddrick Muckelroy, OLB, Texas
Another linebacker? Well, Scott Shanle needs to be upgraded, and Scott Fujita must be replaced.

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draftcountdown.com

32 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: SEAN WEATHERSPOON, OLB, MISSOURI


Scouting Report
It seems as though New Orleans has been rumored to be looking for an upgrade at outside linebacker for years. In fact, giving the Saints a linebacker has officially replaced old standbys such as “Offensive Tackle to Houston” and “Wide Receiver to Tennessee” as the most clichéd choice in mock drafts. Sooner or later it has to happen though, right? The time might be now, especially since they just unexpectedly lost Scott Fujita as a free agent. There is a good chance that Missouri’s Sean Weatherspoon will be long gone by this point, possibly in the Top 20, but if he is still available the Saints would be wise to pounce on him. A fantastic all-around player, Weatherspoon really is the total package. In addition to his impressive measurables and top-notch intangibles Weatherspoon is constantly around the action and just seems to have a knack for making the big play. If Weatherspoon isn’t available keep a close eye on Penn State’s Sean Lee because he is exactly the type of linebacker that the franchise has seriously considered adding in the past. New Orleans could also be in the market for an upgrade at defensive tackle, in which case Penn State’s Jared Odrick, Cal’s Tyson Alualu or perhaps even East Carolina’s Linval Joseph could be possibilities. The Saints might also consider a free safety here but that would obviously depend on how they feel about their odds of re-signing free agent Darren Sharper.

64 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: LAMARR HOUSTON, DT, TEXAS
Scouting Report

Anthony Hargrove is a backup so additional help is needed alongside Sedrick Ellis.

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I think Chip Vaughn makes that scenario pointless. And I don't see a 1st round safety in this class available at 32.

In fact at 32, I can see the Saints selecting BPA at just about every position not called QB.

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Chip Vaughn hasn't played a down of professional football yet so counting on him is ill-advised...

Chip Vaughn was projected as a SS; so we have Harper's replacement...

And Malcolm Jenkins is the prime candidate to move to Free Safety...

Should Taylor Mays fall to No. 32, do the Saints pick, I say he won't be there but if he is, you snatch the pick...

I agree with BPA philosophy, though I'd like to see DL, LB, and/or FS addressed early...