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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TopCow You may be right for many people, but not for me. If players press this agenda to the point of a lockout, I would drop NFL football altogether. I don't need its addictive rush that badly. ...

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Old 09-12-2010, 10:06 PM   #1
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You may be right for many people, but not for me. If players press this agenda to the point of a lockout, I would drop NFL football altogether. I don't need its addictive rush that badly.
Ok, if the lock out occurs, it will be the owners that do it, not the players. Basically, if I understand it all correctly, if the players don't agree, to the new bargaining agreement, by a certain date, then the owners will lock them out. Not a strike persay. A forced strike is more like it.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:08 AM   #3
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The demonstrations are a turnoff to me. They look childish at best, and thuggish at worst. Pay disputes are a private matter, and should be kept private. As a fan, I don't want to be pulled into this fight and forced to choose sides. If you want to be a pro football player, play ball! If you want to be a politician, hang up your cleats and go for it.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:13 AM   #4
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I have no problem with a players organization showing solidarity in the face of the couch potato nation on the most watched football game in a long time. Good for them.
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:55 AM   #5
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What we have is millionaire players complaining to their billionaire owners, and vice-versa. At the end of the day any increase in money on either side is passed down to you and me, not absorbed by the owners. When Nike or whoever pays an athlete a crazy check for endorsements the costs are trickled down to you and me in the price tag of their products. It's the fans who always get the shaft. We should be the ones holding our fingers up in solidarity. I love football but the salaries have become gross, for everyone involved.

The QB is the highest paid position due to the fact that they are the most vulnerable. However, there are increasing rules protecting the quarterback and their salaries continue to grow (see Tom Brady's recent deal). My opinion, for every rule that is added to protect a player, their salaries are reduced. If the logic is increased pay due to danger effect then reduced pay for less danger makes sense.

Is my suggestion silly, of course. But it just goes to show how what is going on in the NFL is not logically sound.

I think the NFL is not unlike the real estate market was, artificially inflated. Every bubble pops. The NFL is not exempt from the laws of economics.

Probably took that to a different level than intended but had to vent.

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Old 09-13-2010, 11:01 AM   #6
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I am pro Union because without them the Corporate slave masters would eliminate the middle class. I understand professional athletes are not the middle class. I also believe the owners should offer lower priced seating sections and bring down the price of the consessions.
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I am pro Union because without them the Corporate slave masters would eliminate the middle class. I understand professional athletes are not the middle class. I also believe the owners should offer lower priced seating sections and bring down the price of the consessions.
Actually, those "corporate slave masters" put money in our pockets, pulling us up out of poverty and virtual slavery. Each owner probably employs 500 people directly and indirectly. How is that a bad thing?

If you want to complain about prices, complain to the player's union. The NFLPA is largely responsible for the outrageous costs to run an NFL franchise.
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Did anybody see what happened to Damarcus Ware last night when he stuck his head in the wrong place? These guys should get all they can from the fat cats up top. Solidarity is the way to do it. Very few owners walk with a limp late in life except for when their pockets get too heavy. I'm not a big union guy, but I'm with these guys.
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Did anybody see what happened to Damarcus Ware last night when he stuck his head in the wrong place? These guys should get all they can from the fat cats up top. Solidarity is the way to do it. Very few owners walk with a limp late in life except for when their pockets get too heavy. I'm not a big union guy, but I'm with these guys.
No one is forcing them to play. And they make more in 1 game that 90% of America makes in a year so the whole fat cat owners arguement holds no water with me.

The players are every bit as greedy as the owners.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:44 PM   #10
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Interesting that Nissan-USA does not use union labor and continues to dominate the American market in both cars and happy employees. Unions ABSOLUTELY served their purpose in history but now union officials are just another group of people getting their cut and passing the cost down to consumers (which includes fellow union members). How much of the sticker price on your Chevy went to pay administrative fees for unions?

How much of your season ticket goes to pay for the same fees?
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