2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by lee909

I like it,but I don't see the Rams trading with us.They pick at 16 so I don't see them missing out on somebody by waiting.

Well, they could move up from their 22nd in the 1st - which they received from the 'Skins - to have two consecutive picks at 15 and 16 if the right offensive and defensive linemen were there for them, which are both a need for them. Also, based on JP's proposal, they'd be giving up their 2nd rounder while gaining the Saints' 4th rounder, so they wouldn't be decreasing their overall number of picks in the draft.

I know it's somewhat unlikely, but if the right player(s) are there, they might be tempted to trade up - just like any other team really.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by lee909

I like it,but I don't see the Rams trading with us.They pick at 16 so I don't see them missing out on somebody by waiting.

They need a One WR and multiple offensive line positions, especially a Left Tackle, moving their second No. 1 up will give them a go at either Johnson, Womack, Patterson, Eifert, Vacarro...

[lee909]

I hope your right.
I could see a similar deal with the Bengals being a option.

[lee909]

DT
Montori Hughes
Tennessee-Martin Ohio Valley
Photo of Montori Hughes
6'4" Height
32 5/8" Arm Length
329LBS. Weight
10 1/8" Hands

Overview

Hughes’ collegiate journey has not been ideal, in terms of the maturity and consistency NFL scouts look for in top-tier prospects. Academic issues forced him to go to Hargrave Military Academy for a semester after high school graduation instead of beginning his career with the Tennessee Volunteers. He was suspended for the 2010 regular season finale, as well as from team activities during the following offseason, for violating team academic rules while at Tennessee, and eventually was dismissed from the school after playing a part in a dorm incident in May 2011. Hughes has shown off his agility and strength inside during his time at Tennessee-Martin, however, enticing scouts enough to consider him at least a valuable rotational NFL player.



Hughes wound up with 106 tackles, 25 for loss and 13 sacks as a senior at Murfreesboro High School, and his performance at the Toyota East-West All-Star Classic caused UT to have great interest in his services. He enrolled in school in January of 2009, participating in spring practice so he could be prepared to play every game with the Volunteers in his first fall on campus (20 tackles, two for loss). He began his sophomore year as a starter, lining up with the ones the first five games (including once against UTM) before going to a reserve role the rest of the year (17 tackles, 3.5 for loss, one sack). He played in every game, starting seven, for the Skyhawks after his transfer in 2011 (30 tackles, 6.5 for loss, one sack). In his senior season, Hughes managed 31 tackles (8.5 for loss), four sacks, and 13 QB hurries.
Analysis
Strengths
NFL-sized nose tackle with thick upper body and strength through the thighs. Flashes initial quickness off the ball, can drive the center backwards or lift him off the ground post-snap when fully utilizing his strength and explosiveness. Does not give much ground against single or double blocks. Shows the agility to spin off blocks and move to the ball down the line. Provides pressure up the middle with a swim move or quick movement into either A-gap. Quick enough to chase quarterbacks trying to leave the pocket if free from his block, can also force cut backs by ballcarriers by his effort to the ball in the backfield. Works hard to hold the line using his lower body strength, and can split doubles to get to the ball in tight quarters. Flashes violent hands to rip off man-up blocks.
Weaknesses
Needs to use his hands more consistently to control his man and gain leverage. Can struggle to disengage to make plays. Will anticipate the snap at times, jumping offside or getting off-balance so centers can control him. Lacks closing speed and the ability to break down to make many plays outside the box against elusive ballcarriers. Takes time to recover once on the ground. Played against a lower level of competition after being dismissed from Tennessee, was far from dominant in terms of his strength against better FCS players. Work ethic and stamina has been questioned.
NFL Comparison
Linval Joseph
Bottom Line
Hughes is a wide-body nose tackle with the agility scouts and coaches love to see. He needed a prep school detour for academic issues, which dogged him during his time in Tennessee as well before his dismissal from that program. Teams will need to see him prove his work ethic, but if he does, he could be a nice rotational piece for a 4-3 base defensive team at the next level.



Dont get why the describe him as a NT then say he could be a nice rotational player for a 4-3.Depends on offfield issue.Mocked as a 5th round pick by Walter football

[jeanpierre]

I was just going over the scouting again of Montori Hughes; came away with the impression that the overall production would not be worth the risk he presents; also think he's more suited to a 4-3 proformation defense than the 3-4...

[lee909]

Just saw him mocked and thought be worth seeing some views on him.Never heard of him myself.

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, they could move up from their 22nd in the 1st - which they received from the 'Skins - to have two consecutive picks at 15 and 16 if the right offensive and defensive linemen were there for them, which are both a need for them. Also, based on JP's proposal, they'd be giving up their 2nd rounder while gaining the Saints' 4th rounder, so they wouldn't be decreasing their overall number of picks in the draft.

I know it's somewhat unlikely, but if the right player(s) are there, they might be tempted to trade up - just like any other team really.

i think if any team is going to trade with us it is for the soul purpose of moving in front of the rams to pick OL players. those are the teams i am looking at. if the rams trade up things will get interesting

[hagan714]

Montori Hughes for a fourth or a fifth and another NT in the mix might be worth risk to develop.

ok i am now at

1olb
2OT
2 NT/DT
1 CB
ok running out of picks need to rethink this lol

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by hagan714

Montori Hughes for a fourth or a fifth and another NT in the mix might be worth risk to develop.

ok i am now at

1olb
2OT
2 NT/DT
1 CB
ok running out of picks need to rethink this lol

How about:

1 OLB
1 OT
1 NT
1 CB
1 TE

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (JeanPierre)

R1(15) Traded to Rams

R1(22) Trade from Rams, Saints select LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia

R2(46) Trade from Rams, Saints select OL Barrett Jones, Alabama

R3(75) OT Chris Faulk, LSU

R4(106) Traded to Rams

R5 NT Kwame Geathers, Georgia

6R LB Ty Powell, Harding

Okay, Hagan's got me crushing on Barrett Jones now, so it's...

Looking like an all-weekend Canal St/Magazine St/Bourbon St Tag and Release Weekend to offset the man-crush on two prospects, Ogletree and Jones, I really want to see the Saints get in their abbreviated draft...