Lord_Saint83

Its easy to blame the dc when the defense is not good and in some instances it is be it scheme or what have u. Then there are times when the personnel just isn't talented or too old or too young whatever. No matter how hard u try u cant polish a turd.

Vrillon82

Ive always felt that most players on our defense barely qualifies as starter material. With the exception of a couple notable guys like Jabari Greer or Vilma ( in the past) and now Lofton.

I think Gregg Williams got the most he could get out of them for a couple years there, a guy like Spags comes in and the guys just failed to learn his scheme, TBH I would of had more trust in Spags than anyone, might still do, I think our defensive players is the problem.

But I can tell you the one time we was playing with Bush and Quddus at Safety, seemed to of worked under Spags as opposed to Harper and whoever the hell else is at safety. Remember the 45-0 was it? thrashing of Tampa? It games like that that raises an eye brow to me for the fact his scheme shut out Tampa and then look back at potential problems on the defense more than any DC can handle or fix. I dont think Williams, Spags, or Gibbs was a problem. I think our players are the problem.