If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

homerj07 · 09-01-2013, 09:47 PM

At this point it's moot. This is a topic best saved for late February.

|Mitch| · 09-01-2013, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

im glad we have a offense that can put 40+ but wouldn't it be refreshing to know if we don't we have a shot at winning as it stands no we can score 40+ and still lose thats a lot of pressure to put on drew every week

And how do you know that our defense won't be able to stop the points? Going off past irrelevant stats or the very vanilla 4-3 defense you have seen in the preseason?

No one knows what our defense will play like and all this Ryan getting fired is way premature...

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-01-2013, 09:50 PM

I don't know I guess I've always been defensive guy.i just like a defense that goes out and knocks your _______ in the dirt. Its just not something we have never had in the last 30+ yrs

pumpkindriver · 09-01-2013, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

I don't know I guess I've always been defensive guy.i just like a defense that goes out and knocks your _______ in the dirt. Its just not something we have never had in the last 30+ yrs

Hurumpfff, How quickly they forget, DOME PATROL!! (circa 87-95)

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-01-2013, 10:56 PM

dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one

rezburna · 09-01-2013, 11:07 PM

Our personnel hasn't been that great since Mark Fields and Sammy Knight were here. Last year Spags ran the worse possible scheme for an already weak group of players. We've NEVER been able to get pressure out of a 4 man rush and he was betting the house on it. We haven't had an elite pass rusher in years. Not since Will Smith and Charles Grants glory days. People always seem to flash like shooting stars for us as far as pass rush goes. Smith...Grant...Darren Howard anyone?

blackangold · 09-01-2013, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

He's never had an offense that could hang 40+ either... And I do believe that the Cowboys had a Top 10 defense last year until injuries decimated. We'll never have better than a middle of the pack defense(we're more offense oriented), but all we need is middle of the pack and we're easily in the playoffs

2010 we had the 4th best defense in total yards...

2010 We had a healthy defense that had attitude and liked to hit... That attitude is coming back and I like what I have seen so far. In 2009 our D was 27th; we jumped to 4th the next season so the impossible can be accomplished.

TheOak · 09-02-2013, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

I just haven't really seen much of a change. We still have the same guys with the exception of like 2-3 new guys. Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had a team in the playoffs which may come to hurt us come that time of the yr. I just don't wanna see our team wasted having one of the best offenses if not best. we could be a dynasty team if we had a decent def.

I beg to differ on the 2-3 guys.

Off the top of my head.
Vaccaro
Haralson
Johnson
Foster

We only need middle of the pack.

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-02-2013, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I beg to differ on the 2-3 guys.

Off the top of my head.
Vaccaro
Haralson
Johnson
Foster

We only need middle of the pack.

I don't see anyone of those guys starting all of them are going to platoon.
Vaccaro should start but probably wont granted he'll see a lot of time
J.Jenkins may start at some point as well
Haralson and Foster and Johnson is going to come in off the bench
K.lewis is the only real starter that we have new starting
I just don't expect to see a big difference but hey we can't be any worse than were last yr
Everyone says we only need to be middle of the pack. Well that's hunky dory and good. I want a nasty mean rip your head off turnover causing unit were we don't have to score 40 points and sit on the edge of my seat hoping its gonna be enough for the win
I wanna see some 40-3 games or some shut outs .Don't you guys get tired of standing around the water cooler at work talking about how good the offense is but have to make excuses for the defense

lee909 · 09-02-2013, 04:39 AM

Id actually like to see a full non injured Rob Ryan defense on the field befire I consider who should replace him

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN im glad we have a offense that can put 40+ but wouldn't it be refreshing to know if we don't we have a shot at winning as it stands no we can score 40+ and still lose thats a lot of pressure to put on drew every week And how do you know that our defense won't be able to stop the points? Going off past irrelevant stats or the very vanilla 4-3 defense you have seen in the preseason? No one knows what our defense will play like and all this Ryan getting fired is way premature... pumpkindriver and saintsfan403 like this.

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DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? I don't know I guess I've always been defensive guy.i just like a defense that goes out and knocks your _______ in the dirt. Its just not something we have never had in the last 30+ yrs

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pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN I don't know I guess I've always been defensive guy.i just like a defense that goes out and knocks your _______ in the dirt. Its just not something we have never had in the last 30+ yrs Hurumpfff, How quickly they forget, DOME PATROL!! (circa 87-95) SaintPauly and saintsfan403 like this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| He's never had an offense that could hang 40+ either... And I do believe that the Cowboys had a Top 10 defense last year until injuries decimated. We'll never have better than a middle of the pack defense(we're more offense oriented), but all we need is middle of the pack and we're easily in the playoffs 2010 we had the 4th best defense in total yards... 2010 We had a healthy defense that had attitude and liked to hit... That attitude is coming back and I like what I have seen so far. In 2009 our D was 27th; we jumped to 4th the next season so the impossible can be accomplished.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN I just haven't really seen much of a change. We still have the same guys with the exception of like 2-3 new guys. Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had a team in the playoffs which may come to hurt us come that time of the yr. I just don't wanna see our team wasted having one of the best offenses if not best. we could be a dynasty team if we had a decent def. I beg to differ on the 2-3 guys. Off the top of my head. Vaccaro Haralson Johnson Foster We only need middle of the pack.

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DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by TheOak I beg to differ on the 2-3 guys. Off the top of my head. Vaccaro Haralson Johnson Foster We only need middle of the pack. I don't see anyone of those guys starting all of them are going to platoon. Vaccaro should start but probably wont granted he'll see a lot of time J.Jenkins may start at some point as well Haralson and Foster and Johnson is going to come in off the bench K.lewis is the only real starter that we have new starting I just don't expect to see a big difference but hey we can't be any worse than were last yr Everyone says we only need to be middle of the pack. Well that's hunky dory and good. I want a nasty mean rip your head off turnover causing unit were we don't have to score 40 points and sit on the edge of my seat hoping its gonna be enough for the win I wanna see some 40-3 games or some shut outs .Don't you guys get tired of standing around the water cooler at work talking about how good the offense is but have to make excuses for the defense

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