If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-01-2013, 08:10 PM

I'm going into the season giving Rob Ryan the benefit of the doubt that he will but if he doesn't .I think they should go and see if they can get Lovie Smith. I really wanted Lovie this Year but I guess he was holding out for a HC job

|Mitch| · 09-01-2013, 08:13 PM

Rob Ryan will get more than 1 year... And while I expect some improvement(mid 20's is about right), no way will it be totally fixed this year...

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-01-2013, 08:16 PM

I thought spags would have got more than a yr too

|Mitch| · 09-01-2013, 08:17 PM

Total scheme change, working right along side Payton... He'll get more than one year...

saintfan · 09-01-2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Total scheme change, working right along side Payton... He'll get more than one year...

This

jeanpierre · 09-01-2013, 08:21 PM

Wow...

I didn't like the Ryan hiring either, but...

Need another draft with a commitment to drafting outside linebackers in two of the first three rounds (not two of the first three picks, but two picks in the first 2-1/2 rounds, among first 80 picks)...

Gotta get the Safeties transitioned; appears Harper's time is set with the Vacarro pick; Jenkins has to show he can ball when in the right system (50/50)...

Ryan will probably be gone anyways if the defense goes from historically last to middle of the pack - the NFL is nepotistic and he's his father's son and old money owners like hiring those types...

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-01-2013, 08:31 PM

I just haven't really seen much of a change. We still have the same guys with the exception of like 2-3 new guys. Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had a team in the playoffs which may come to hurt us come that time of the yr. I just don't wanna see our team wasted having one of the best offenses if not best. we could be a dynasty team if we had a decent def.

|Mitch| · 09-01-2013, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew.

He's never had an offense that could hang 40+ either... And I do believe that the Cowboys had a Top 10 defense last year until injuries decimated. We'll never have better than a middle of the pack defense(we're more offense oriented), but all we need is middle of the pack and we're easily in the playoffs

blackangold · 09-01-2013, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

He's never had an offense that could hang 40+ either... And I do believe that the Cowboys had a Top 10 defense last year until injuries decimated. We'll never have better than a middle of the pack defense(we're more offense oriented), but all we need is middle of the pack and we're easily in the playoffs

2010 we had the 4th best defense in total yards...

2010 We had a healthy defense that had attitude and liked to hit... That attitude is coming back and I like what I have seen so far. In 2009 our D was 27th; we jumped to 4th the next season so the impossible can be accomplished.

TheOak · 09-02-2013, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

I just haven't really seen much of a change. We still have the same guys with the exception of like 2-3 new guys. Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had a team in the playoffs which may come to hurt us come that time of the yr. I just don't wanna see our team wasted having one of the best offenses if not best. we could be a dynasty team if we had a decent def.

I beg to differ on the 2-3 guys.

Off the top of my head.
Vaccaro
Haralson
Johnson
Foster

We only need middle of the pack.

09-01-2013, 08:10 PM	#1
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? I'm going into the season giving Rob Ryan the benefit of the doubt that he will but if he doesn't .I think they should go and see if they can get Lovie Smith. I really wanted Lovie this Year but I guess he was holding out for a HC job

09-01-2013, 08:13 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Rob Ryan will get more than 1 year... And while I expect some improvement(mid 20's is about right), no way will it be totally fixed this year... pumpkindriver, Beastmode, ClintSaints and 2 others like this.

09-01-2013, 08:16 PM	#3
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09-01-2013, 08:17 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Total scheme change, working right along side Payton... He'll get more than one year...

09-01-2013, 08:33 PM	#5
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09-01-2013, 08:21 PM	#6
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09-01-2013, 08:31 PM	#7
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? I just haven't really seen much of a change. We still have the same guys with the exception of like 2-3 new guys. Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had a team in the playoffs which may come to hurt us come that time of the yr. I just don't wanna see our team wasted having one of the best offenses if not best. we could be a dynasty team if we had a decent def.

09-01-2013, 08:36 PM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had an offense that could hang 40+ either... And I do believe that the Cowboys had a Top 10 defense last year until injuries decimated. We'll never have better than a middle of the pack defense(we're more offense oriented), but all we need is middle of the pack and we're easily in the playoffs SaintFanInATLHELL and savoyk like this.

09-01-2013, 10:43 PM	#9
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| He's never had an offense that could hang 40+ either... And I do believe that the Cowboys had a Top 10 defense last year until injuries decimated. We'll never have better than a middle of the pack defense(we're more offense oriented), but all we need is middle of the pack and we're easily in the playoffs 2010 we had the 4th best defense in total yards... 2010 We had a healthy defense that had attitude and liked to hit... That attitude is coming back and I like what I have seen so far. In 2009 our D was 27th; we jumped to 4th the next season so the impossible can be accomplished.

09-02-2013, 02:17 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN I just haven't really seen much of a change. We still have the same guys with the exception of like 2-3 new guys. Rob has never had a great defense any where he has been his defenses have always been middle of the pack crew. He's never had a team in the playoffs which may come to hurt us come that time of the yr. I just don't wanna see our team wasted having one of the best offenses if not best. we could be a dynasty team if we had a decent def. I beg to differ on the 2-3 guys. Off the top of my head. Vaccaro Haralson Johnson Foster We only need middle of the pack.

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