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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Two words: salary cap. You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice SFIAH Yep, 2013 Saints offense + Dome patrol defense = 19-0. It would also equate to about ...

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Old 09-02-2013, 09:06 AM   #31
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Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL View Post
Two words: salary cap.

You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice

SFIAH
Yep,

2013 Saints offense + Dome patrol defense = 19-0.

It would also equate to about 70 million over the salary cap.
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:13 AM   #32
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I think Ryan needs to be here 2-3 years at least.
-You can't build a unit in one year.
-He isn't a bad coach.
-You have to have some consistency

The big down fall he is facing is our team isn't building to win in 2-3 years.
We are built to win now. We don't have long before Bree's is done. Cap is a problem.
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL View Post

You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice

SFIAH
You hit the nail right on the head.
In the Payton era we've had probably the best offense in the league. Teams play us and they know they may have to score a ton of points win. In turn, it puts our defense in a tough position.
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dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one
Early 90's, if my math is correct, was about 20 years ago. And btw, our defense with spags at the helm, did pitch a shutout last season, so the talent is there. It all depends on stamina, and motivation. We need a defensive leader, that leads with heart, determination, AND example. With Vilma on the decline, I don't see anyone stepping up into that role. Yet.
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:49 AM   #35
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Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

What difference does it make if its 30 years or 22 years really come on its not the point.

My point is baring some unforeseen miracle I don't see how our defense is going to be any better than we have been yr in and yr out. Maybe our scheme may change but we still have the same players with the same lack of ability to get to the QB

I'm sorry I even started this thread because its obvious you all are satisfied having a lame A-- defense as long as we have a epic offense
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:03 AM   #36
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Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

I don't think any of us are satisfied with having any part of our team that is 'lamea--'. We are however just establishing that it is impossible to have a team where every area is stellar. Put really simply, the way the cap works, we can improve our D at the expense of our O.

There was a great comment further up about how the league is leaning towards being a point scoring game. It certainly is. So why invest in a D which has to tread on eggshells when you have the best O in town who are not only awesome but will get calls work in their favour as well!

I am certainly more comfortable with having our amazing offence at the expense of a less than amazing defence. I do also reckon that we have some great pieces in place now to make that defence more than adequate. Cameron Jordan, pound for pound, may turn into one of the best D players in the league.
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so your saying we have a one man team Drew Brees cause we sure as crap don't have a running game not with Ingram back there I still don't know why they don't give the ball to Thomas more the guy's career average is 5 yrs a carry. Tell me why Thomas has gotten to run the ball 20 times 3 times in his career



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Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN View Post
so your saying we have a one man team Drew Brees
I don't see this as a one man team, we have a lot of cap dedicated to Colston, Evans, Grubbs, Moore, Brees, soon to be Graham,

Now I ask you; who do you get rid of to allow more cap space for better defense?
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Jenkins ,vilma, w.smith , r,harper d.hawthorne .c.chamberlin K.colmon
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Jenkins ,vilma, w.smith , r,harper d.hawthorne .c.chamberlin K.colmon
We've already been through this; We lose money if we cut Jenkins, Hawthorne, Smith, Vilma, Harper, Chamberlain... And then you have to spend more money to replace them...
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