If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC?

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-01-2013, 09:56 PM

dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-02-2013, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one

Two words: salary cap.

You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice

SFIAH

Danno · 09-02-2013, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Two words: salary cap.

You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice

SFIAH

Yep,

2013 Saints offense + Dome patrol defense = 19-0.

It would also equate to about 70 million over the salary cap.

cmike · 09-02-2013, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice

SFIAH

You hit the nail right on the head.
In the Payton era we've had probably the best offense in the league. Teams play us and they know they may have to score a ton of points win. In turn, it puts our defense in a tough position.

SaintPauly · 09-02-2013, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one

Early 90's, if my math is correct, was about 20 years ago. And btw, our defense with spags at the helm, did pitch a shutout last season, so the talent is there. It all depends on stamina, and motivation. We need a defensive leader, that leads with heart, determination, AND example. With Vilma on the decline, I don't see anyone stepping up into that role. Yet.

iceshack149 · 09-02-2013, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by SaintPauly

We need a defensive leader, that leads with heart, determination, AND example. With Vilma on the decline, I don't see anyone stepping up into that role. Yet.

I think the leaders are Lofton, Jenkins, and Cam Jordan. In that order.

Forgive me for piling on but why are we digging graves for anyone in the Saints organization before the season even starts?

rezburna · 09-01-2013, 10:07 PM

Our personnel hasn't been that great since Mark Fields and Sammy Knight were here. Last year Spags ran the worse possible scheme for an already weak group of players. We've NEVER been able to get pressure out of a 4 man rush and he was betting the house on it. We haven't had an elite pass rusher in years. Not since Will Smith and Charles Grants glory days. People always seem to flash like shooting stars for us as far as pass rush goes. Smith...Grant...Darren Howard anyone?

lee909 · 09-02-2013, 03:39 AM

Id actually like to see a full non injured Rob Ryan defense on the field befire I consider who should replace him

dizzle88 · 09-02-2013, 04:16 AM

Get vaccaro on the field, that guy is going to put someone on the ground

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-02-2013, 05:20 AM

im not sure but that sounds like a excuse. the salary cap don't allow it
tell that to the pats always a top offense and almost always a top 10 def same with the giants,broncos,pitts,packers

I said in the beginning I was giving him the benefit of the doubt

i'm just saying I haven't seen much improvement only way we get pressure is with the blitz

09-01-2013, 09:56 PM	#1
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one

09-02-2013, 09:03 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,790	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one Two words: salary cap. You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice SFIAH Danno, thebdj and cmike like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,764	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Two words: salary cap. You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice SFIAH Yep, 2013 Saints offense + Dome patrol defense = 19-0. It would also equate to about 70 million over the salary cap. SaintFanInATLHELL, SaintPauly, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

09-02-2013, 09:18 AM	#4
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,449	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL You can have the Dome Patrol, or you can have Drew Brees. It's your choice SFIAH You hit the nail right on the head. In the Payton era we've had probably the best offense in the league. Teams play us and they know they may have to score a ton of points win. In turn, it puts our defense in a tough position.

09-02-2013, 09:25 AM	#5
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN dome patrol was 25-30 yrs ago we haven't had one since and i'll give them till 86-92 was the last yr after 93 all but mills was gone I didn't forget im just saying why cant we ever have another one Early 90's, if my math is correct, was about 20 years ago. And btw, our defense with spags at the helm, did pitch a shutout last season, so the talent is there. It all depends on stamina, and motivation. We need a defensive leader, that leads with heart, determination, AND example. With Vilma on the decline, I don't see anyone stepping up into that role. Yet.

09-02-2013, 10:59 AM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,500 Blog Entries: 1	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Originally Posted by SaintPauly We need a defensive leader, that leads with heart, determination, AND example. With Vilma on the decline, I don't see anyone stepping up into that role. Yet. I think the leaders are Lofton, Jenkins, and Cam Jordan. In that order. Forgive me for piling on but why are we digging graves for anyone in the Saints organization before the season even starts?

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,245	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Our personnel hasn't been that great since Mark Fields and Sammy Knight were here. Last year Spags ran the worse possible scheme for an already weak group of players. We've NEVER been able to get pressure out of a 4 man rush and he was betting the house on it. We haven't had an elite pass rusher in years. Not since Will Smith and Charles Grants glory days. People always seem to flash like shooting stars for us as far as pass rush goes. Smith...Grant...Darren Howard anyone?

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,877 Blog Entries: 1	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? Id actually like to see a full non injured Rob Ryan defense on the field befire I consider who should replace him

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DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: If Rob Ryan fails to fix the Defense Who's Next DC? im not sure but that sounds like a excuse. the salary cap don't allow it tell that to the pats always a top offense and almost always a top 10 def same with the giants,broncos,pitts,packers I said in the beginning I was giving him the benefit of the doubt i'm just saying I haven't seen much improvement only way we get pressure is with the blitz

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